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cj241101 17th Mar 2018 21:39


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10087034)
Restrictions aside....football teams flying thru are de rigueur for many airports nowadays not much prestige involved I would hesitate to add..

Swansea and Watford maybe not (please, no complaints!). The likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid for starters are a different matter and still have an aura about them. As far as UK airports are concerned they probably only ever use the London airports, usually Luton, plus Manchester and Liverpool.
Interesting to see what happens next season if any of the London based teams get drawn to play any of Europe's biggest clubs.

LTNman 17th Mar 2018 22:58

It is ironic that in the year that the airport gets a capacity boost it finds itself having to turn business away.

commit aviation 18th Mar 2018 17:16

It is probably worth bearing in mind these restrictions appear to apply to Summer seasons only. The fact that airlines fly a reduced programme in the winter means less pressure on night slots. So the early stages of European football competitions shouldn't present a problem.

....& dare I suggest that based on the current performance of the London clubs to get beyond the last 16 there may not be a problem at all!!! :O:O:O

Buster the Bear 19th Mar 2018 11:59

World Cup sponsors might have problems this summer.

kenparry 19th Mar 2018 18:41


BBC News says 15,000 in 3 years Noise complaints soar at London Luton Airport - BBC News and "Just 20 people were behind 72% of complaints while almost half of all complaints (6,700) came from the same five residents in Harpenden"

Then "Complaints rose from 441 in 2015, to 1,024 in 2016 and 1,485 in 2017 and campaigners said they had "not seen any changes" in noise reduction. " so I think this is number of single individuals?
Nothing new in that. Back in the early 90s when I worked for a LTN-based airline, I was in a meeting with our MD and an official from the D of T (or whatever that week's name was.) The latter threw in that the previous year had produced 600 or so (can't remember the exact number from 25 years back) noise complaints; short pause; "of which all but about 40 were from the same resident of Harpenden." The total was certainly way above the 441 quoted for 2015.

pabely 19th Mar 2018 19:03


Originally Posted by kenparry (Post 10089472)
Nothing new in that. Back in the early 90s when I worked for a LTN-based airline, I was in a meeting with our MD and an official from the D of T (or whatever that week's name was.) The latter threw in that the previous year had produced 600 or so (can't remember the exact number from 25 years back) noise complaints; short pause; "of which all but about 40 were from the same resident of Harpenden." The total was certainly way above the 441 quoted for 2015.

Probably quite a few 737-200 around then!

pabely 20th Mar 2018 22:56

I know it's a long way off but these are sporting events which might generate quite a few Ad-Hoc movements which would have to be accomodated somewhere Major League Baseball: London Stadium games set for 2019 - BBC Sport

LTNman 21st Mar 2018 12:21

Just the first hints that the ground floor terminal extension might open for Easter. I had a little peek today behind the still boarded up terminal extension to see that all the new retail units are also boarded up with some having stickers on them announcing that they will be opening soon so clearly won't be open for when the public access the new build.

When it does open the new terminal entrances will remain closed as there is still a few months work to be completed yet outside the front of the terminal. On the positive side the extension makes the terminal seem quite wide when standing at one end. On the negative side what's happened to the proposed ceiling? Maybe that is the last job to be done?

Other news includes after the removal of the fairground hot dog stands the concrete plinths they all sat on due to the sloping ground have all been dug up and replaced with matching sloping tarmac. 3 of the 4 kiosks have been moved to 2 bus bays with the 4th now located by the drop off zone. The kiosks in the bus bays have lost I would say 80% of their business.

LTNman 21st Mar 2018 17:30

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ar...-idUKKBN1GW1U6

With only 13 years left on the lease and Aena saying they will not buy the remaining 49% I can't see Ardian getting a huge sum.

phead 22nd Mar 2018 07:36

I see cranfield has a expansion plan for decision next week (CB/17/5862/OUT) , would this pickup any of the private traffic pushed out from luton?

LTNman 22nd Mar 2018 17:15

I thought they already did. From memory Harrods have some sort of parking arrangement at Cranfield.

22/04 22nd Mar 2018 17:58

Cranfield currently has 3-6 private jets per day at present. Generally restricted to 08.00-19.00 so quite restrictive hours and outside controlled airspace. One of or two users do position in from LTN to avoid parking on longer stays.

LGS6753 23rd Mar 2018 17:50

Slot allocations for S18:

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...son-Report.pdf

Highlights:

Overall increase in seats: 2.4%
Major reduction in runway capacity 0500-0600 UTC (arrivals) largely offset by increases throughout the day as a result of new taxiway.
'New' regular operators: Air Europa (1pw), Albastar (1pw), Freebird, Maleth Aero, Travel Service (2pw).
Increases from Air Nostrum (Vigo), Blue Air (+5.1% seats), EasyJet (+6.2%), El Al (+11%), Ryanair (+2.8%), Sun Express (+245%), Thomas Cook (+316%), Wizzair (+22.4%).
Major reductions from Monarch (100%), Vueling (-24%), TUI (-20%).
One Corsair A330-300, 2 Aeroflot, 8 Azerbaijan (F1 GP) planned.

pabely 23rd Mar 2018 19:45

Interesting that EAT (DHL) & MNG do not appear affected and Transavia France now a no show, I thought they were to return just for summer but obviously not now. Aer Lingus to Dublin cancelled!

LTNman 23rd Mar 2018 20:31

I think A300 overnight movements are banned for summer 2019 and not this year. Certainly the general overnight movements for this year have been nearly halved.

Also wondering if Luton will end cargo flights seeing that they only have 2 stands and they biggest customer flies A300's.

Buster the Bear 23rd Mar 2018 20:45

Aer Lingus to Dublin would be a superb route with interline onto long haul.

davidjohnson6 24th Mar 2018 11:07

Anyone know what brings Maleth Aero to Luton ? I'm guessing it's a charter for some sort of holiday flight, but would be interested to know any details

compton3bravo 24th Mar 2018 17:57

Maleth Aero operate some freight B737s whether they are connected with the new DHL routes to Dublin and Porto could be a possibility, but more likely for charters to the World Cup and F1. I see Blueair are to operate to Constanta according to ACL but nothing on their web site. Don't forget DHL operate a large B757 fleet so am I right in thinking these would be in the noise limits. MNG operate an A330 into Luton so would that be also be within the noise constraints?

port_94 25th Mar 2018 09:56

The new Prett has opened at the former Bar 10 unit and it’s very nice. Very relaxed seating and typical prett music. Very good addition, just a shame no one knows unless their gate is in the single figures

Talking of gates, the new gate numbers have been released for peir B 30,32,34&36 for stand side and 31,33,35&37 for the coached side

So 8 new gates in the peir

pabely 25th Mar 2018 13:39


Talking of gates, the new gate numbers have been released for pier B 30,32,34&36 for stand side and 31,33,35&37 for the coached side
Coach side for South Stands, even less room for Harrods & Signature then. I'm sure LTNman had a date when they were to be fully handed back.


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