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compton3bravo 12th Oct 2017 09:23

Personally Giles I would not worry about a civil war in Spain, not mentioned here at all only some German MEP spouting off. The government in Madrid will not allow Catalonia to become an independent republic under any circumstances for many obvious reasons. Most people from Catalonia do not want independence and it is only the CUP party that is keeping the present government in power. Too much at stake as has been seen with major companies already moving their HQ to Madrid.Not being able to keep the Euro (going back to the paseta has been mentioned) and leaving the European Union would be calamitous - border controls etc - (even if you do not care for the EU)
As far as one can see there is no tension among the people - national holiday today - more interested in the quality of the upcoming wine and olive harvest and as for Brexit hardly mentioned in the Spanish media.
A levelling off of passengers at a number of airport's including Luton would not be a bad thing hopefully giving a slightly more pleasant travelling experience.

pabely 12th Oct 2017 16:05

MAEL
 
Good to see new work at Luton http://www.stattimes.com/icelandair-...-b757-c-checks

compton3bravo 12th Oct 2017 19:41

Passenger figures for September are 1,484,775 up 6 per cent on September 2016. Rolling 12 month figure was 15,723,076 up 12.2 per cent.

LTNman 12th Oct 2017 20:09

Quite remarkable for such a small footprint. Explains a great deal about customer perceptions of Luton.

Lee Baker Street 14th Oct 2017 19:25

16 million
 
LTNman,

Whilst you and many others and that includes myself -are very saddened by Monarch's demise-the fact remains LTN will still continue to grow! I am adamant that LTN will not be going into decline in the near future.

Sixteen million passengers remains achievable by the year end on December 31st.

I think that we have 'almost' seen the end of any given month handling less than one million passengers.

What interests me is-Thomas Cook-and potentially other airlines taking over former Monarch routes.

I estimate that October, November and December will still achieve between 3 and 4 percent growth when compared to last year.

As long as Monarch Engineering has a presence at LTN, then Monarch will always be here!

LTNman 14th Oct 2017 20:05

It would seem that I was too pessimistic about the loss of Monarch. Can’t go into sources of info but there will be no vacant slots with the loss of Monarch for next summer.

Don’t just think of Easyjet and Wizz and don’t dismiss one of Luton’s smaller carriers to take up some of the slack.:oh:

22/04 14th Oct 2017 20:32

Blue Air?

Vueling?

TUI staying with 3 airframes?

planedrive 14th Oct 2017 21:08

I too have heard these rumours LTNman. Such a shame as I thought we might actually get a year when the terminal was allowed a little breather before heaving through another summer. Good news for the customer if it comes to fruition though!

LTNman 14th Oct 2017 22:17

This wasn’t a rumour but more of a fact that is not set in stone yet.

Boeing737-8 14th Oct 2017 22:31

LTNman I have also heared some about this but I'm pretty sure it is a rumour otherwise it would of be announced.Regarding Thomas Cook, originally they wanted to base 2 planes but couldn't do so because of slots so decided to use both Monarchs and easyJet's flights. The flights which are being replace are mostly underserved or not served routes by Easyjet. Turkey is one location which seems to be growing and hopefully Sunexpress will add a few more flights and also show the Izmir flights.

Callum Paterson 15th Oct 2017 13:29

With Wizz Air now a registered UK company and seemingly in the process of gaining a UK AOC, I wonder, would this give Wizz Air the right to fly between the UK and Moscow? And if so, could we see Wizz Air launch a LTN-Moscow route?

Currently Wizz Air serve two destinations from Moscow. Both in Hungary.

Thoughts?

getonittt 15th Oct 2017 19:24

[QUOTE=gilesdavies;9925999]Blue Air by any chance?!

Their route map seems to have been updated over the weekend!

I can make out destinations as:

Portugal - Lisbon
Spain - Seville, Malaga and Palma
Italy - Alghero, Catania, Lameza, Bari, Naples, Rome (FCO), Florence, Bologna and Turin
Israel - Tel Aviv (That will make a change! :rolleyes:)
Sweden - Stockholm (ARN)
Finland - Helsinki
Then a load in Romania!

Just boarding a flight back to Luton now, so unable to check their cooking engine... QUOTE]


I think the cooking engine will route you through existing route hubs for some of these . If I'm wrong then BHX is getting a Helsinki flight .

Callum Paterson 15th Oct 2017 19:40

These will be connections. Unless they are planning to launch a base at GLA with flights to just about every city in Italy and Romania plus Tel Aviv and Halsinki. And I think it's safe to assume they aren't.

Buster the Bear 16th Oct 2017 16:59

All connections from what I can see and some only 1 per week unless they are going to base an airframe and announce something soon?

gilesdavies 16th Oct 2017 21:31

Sorry I was a little enthusiastic with that Blue Air post, when I saw the map and thought these were all new routes, about to be opened up and didn't realise they were connections...

Hence why I have deleted that post.

Never knew Blue Air offered connections... They are a pretty unique Low Cost airline, offering all these connections and with their in-flight service which includes drinks and a meal/snack.

Buster the Bear 18th Oct 2017 10:55

https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/govia-...-train-2222311

LTNman 18th Oct 2017 11:18

Mercedes Citaro buses are standard coaches and not the bendy buses that were cut back a few years ago.

pabely 18th Oct 2017 11:30

The article does not mention which type of Mercedes Citaro bus, the picture only shows a bending bus which is one type they do under the Citaro range, they do two, three & articulated axle types. Logically they would be the same type as the ones currently in use though until such time that DART comes on-line.

LTNman 18th Oct 2017 13:03

Yes it does


The 230 extra services each week will be achieved by increasing the fleet from five to seven, with two additional Mercedes Citaro buses.

Lee Baker Street 18th Oct 2017 14:04

Wizzair
 
BBC report Wizzair to recruit a further 100 staff as it is going to expand at LTN during 2018.

pabely 18th Oct 2017 15:45

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...uk-aoc-442270/
So they will based with UK contracts? Will mean they will release some of their block bookings at budget hotels around the airport?

LTNman 18th Oct 2017 17:10

Last summer Wizz had officially one aircraft based at Luton but in reality it was three. Will these existing three aircraft now be officially at Luton?

Lee Baker Street 19th Oct 2017 07:52

Wizz are heading for growth!

Blue Air to increase services at Luton from April 2018!

It’s all growth...

robbie1973 19th Oct 2017 07:56

Where did you get your information from regarding Blue Air ?

southside bobby 19th Oct 2017 10:56

Where did you get your information from regarding Wizz?
If you are relating to the application for the UK AOC it probably has to be read carefully..
The application is to take over the Wizz Hungary base @ LTN,expand that unit with G-dash a/c with service & a/c transferred from routes already flown.
The intention being Brexit ready.

LGS6753 19th Oct 2017 13:53

Summer 18 slots capacity declaration:

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...eclaration.pdf

toledoashley 19th Oct 2017 14:37

RE Wizz - This is an interesting article from Romania. Maybe the plan for the UK AOC is to fly to the US? INSIDER / Wizz Air vrea sa zboare din Londra in Statele Unite si Canada ? Aeronews

pabely 19th Oct 2017 16:04


Summer 18 slots capacity declaration:
Is that Max r/w capacity +3 / hr then?

LGS6753 19th Oct 2017 18:00

Pabely -

I was trying to link to the S17 figures for comparison, but somehow the weblink address is the same as S18.

In S17 runway capacity was 31 in each hour from 08 to 21 inclusive. Max movements was 114 in any 4 hour period.

It looks as though runway capacity is being increased due to the western taxiway link opening.

LGS6753 19th Oct 2017 18:02

A further notification from ACL is on runway closure:


This Notice is issued to inform all stakeholders of the planned annual closure of the Airfield for
essential maintenance and the new taxiway Bravo tie in works to the Runway.
Notification
The Airfield will be closed for 27 nights during November 2017; the closures will be as follows:
The Runway will be closed each night between 00:01-05:30 starting from Monday 6th
November through to and including Saturday 2
nd December.
ATC Services
There will be no ATC service available between 00:01 – 05:00.
The Airfield will be closed to all aircraft movements and any towing; engine runs etc, will need
to be undertaken outside of these hours

LTNman 19th Oct 2017 18:07

Summer 2016 the limit was 114 movements in any 4 hour period.

I haven't got the figure for this summer but for winter 2017 for some reason that had dropped to 112 movements per any 4 hour period.

Next summer the rate has increased to 124 movements per any 4 hour period.

Maximum hourly rate

S2016 34
W2017 34
S2018 37

That figure should increase again when the taxiway is extended at the 26 end.

Summer 2016 there were 37 stands including 3 in reserve.
Summer 2018 looks like 41 stands are available but 2 are kept in reserve.

LTNman 19th Oct 2017 18:12

Luton to go transatlantic again?
 
http://aeronews.ro/insider-wizz-air-...ite-si-canada/

Translation

According to sources, Wizz Air wants to start transatlantic flights from London Luton Airport to New York and Toronto in March 2018.
Flights to the eastern coast of the United States would be operated with the A321ceo (Current Engine Option), a model that has an autonomy of 5950 km. Wizz Air has 22 in the fleet and has to receive 19 more by 2019, and in June it ordered 10, and they will enter the fleet in 2018 and 2019. Moreover, Jizsef Varadi, Wizz Air CEO, said that he wants to obtain a British Operator Certificate (AOC), which would allow the low-cost operator to start direct flights from London to the US, but also cancel out the effects of Brexit. If the flight information to the US confirms, Wizz Air will join Norwegian, WestJet, Aer Lingus, Icelandair, Air Canada and WOW Air operating transatlantic monocular aircraft. via pasazer.com

What Wizz Air says: "We do not comment on rumors and speculation in the press.

LTNman 20th Oct 2017 04:15

I am surprised no one has commented on the possibility of Wizz opening services to America and Canada from Luton. I would have thought it was the biggest good news story to come out of Luton this year.:confused:

pabely 20th Oct 2017 07:16

Non stop they would need the 321NEO, when are they due?

Falcon666 20th Oct 2017 08:22

A321 NEO due in 2019
Although the stated range of the A321CEO is 5950 Kim's , the distance from London to New York is 5571kms and Toronto 5713kms ( quick check on the web)
The NEO version has a range of 6850kms.

Wizz obviously think it's fine according to that release with a CEO version

pabely 20th Oct 2017 10:39

With a normal Wizzair high density configuration........or would we see muti-class configuration like Primera will be running? If Jet Blue arrive from US as well, they were supposed to had talks already, then it will be a busy market segment!

canberra97 20th Oct 2017 16:10

Don't look into JetBlue too much just because they are supposed have already held talks with LTN management as an airline they would probably be in contact with many airports but it doesn't conclude to them ever flying from those airports. In my opinion if or when JetBlue do announce transatlantic flights it will be from STN rather than LTN.

LTNman 20th Oct 2017 16:17

Another 6 months and some of Luton's major infrastructure projects should be completed. Even though there will still be work taking place in the terminal I would hope that passengers perceptions will start to improve just a tad.

daz211 20th Oct 2017 16:30

If Wizz do start transatlantic flights from Luton I think they will do better than Primera at Stansted this is not due to lack of demand but Wizz is a well know airline at Luton and primera isn’t In fact its not well known in the UK
Even though it’s great news for Stansted I fear if it fails people will think Stansted can’t attract and support transatlantic flights I wish it were a more well known airline
But if true I wish Wizz and Luton all the best.

southside bobby 20th Oct 2017 16:40

JBU...& maybe neither..CEO of Norwegian stated during the week that they may seek to co-operate with JBU on transatlantic services a la EasyJet.


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