BA lease QR aircraft
 

http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/2227.pdf


Mmmm.........
Some people think it's a political hotspot, BA think it's an Industrial Dispute resource.......!?!

<<This site can’t be reached>>

Works for me in Australia! Maybe your government doesn't want its' citizens to know about it! :}

Found it....

No problem accessing the site.

QR crews as blacklegs.. :eek:

BA has wet leased aircraft from UK airlines to cover industrial action in the past, though I guess it's harder to do in the summer months.

I guess the broader question is why Unite are still hell-bent on pursuing industrial action when it has clearly failed to have any impact.

QR crew will enjoy the M&S sarnies. I'm sure the service on QR will be far superior to that of Mixed Fleet.

Agree with crewmeal ! How come though QR can provide a/c and crews for BA. I guess this lease will cost a lot of money and one wonders why AC or WW has not sorted MF issues, bearing in mind it is mainly about the strikers loss of staff travel / bonus. No bonus this year for most expect AC and WW ?

After such poor BA performance this year and with the IT and recent baggage fiasco I would have thought management would have sought a settlement. There was a time when tough management was quietly applauded by the customer this time has passed long ago. Customers will not return to BA as they did in the past and bookings can only suffer!

I actually think BA are living in a legacy twilight world


Everyone else has moved on.

QR has cancelled a lot of routes to neighboring countries due to the blockade by UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Egypt. So they have spare aircraft capacity at the moment. They're also a shareholder in IAG so they have an interest in keeping BA flying !

The business case is straight forward, the political one is perhaps more up for debate.


https://eurocockpit.be/news/exportin...-business-jobs

I would have said so until recently; my previous flight with BA was on a 757 doing the Belfast Shuttle in 1988 and I had no interest in them since then.

But when booking a recent trip I was running out of options and reluctantly tried ba.com. Surprisingly I found their ticket options and website to be much superior than the lo-co alternatives; for example, holding a fare for 72 hours for a refundable £5. Really useful stuff for business travel. I think they're finding a niche.

QR have a 20% investment in BA, so my guess is they've leased them on terms that won't break the bank. It would be in both parties interests to keep the operation running smoothly. Also the likes of Titan and other European charter carriers will be fully booked for the summer and BA cannot afford to keep cancelling flights.

One can see a smile on the businessman's face when boarding a QR aircraft even if it operates a UK shuttle service!

Qatar's Business Class on their 320s isn't much to write home about. Still beats ours though.

There has been little impact to the travelling public but having to bring in QR at an unconfirmed £1.2 million per week should be considered an impact upon BA. How much would restoring staff travel rights cost BA? Penny pinching BA.

As BA have a "flexible" CE cabin, are QR going to remove their J product for BA to offer its normal crap CE offering? Otherwise are they going to restrict the number of CE seats to be sold on those flights being offered with the QR a/c?

Unite Press Release
For immediate use: Friday 23 June 2017
Aviation authority urged to block British Airways leasing Qatari aircraft to cover strike
Britain’s largest union, Unite today (Friday 23 June) is calling on the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to turn down an application by British Airways to charter or ‘wet lease’ nine Qatari registered Airbus that it wants to provide cover for a two week strike by mixed fleet cabin crew.
Writing to the CAA, Unite warned that the lease could be in breach of aviation law, if British Airways was unable to demonstrate that an equivalent level of safety standards would be applied to the aircraft.
Under European Union law, British Airways must demonstrate to the CAA that ‘all safety standards equivalent to those imposed by the community or national laws are met.’ As part of this a thorough examination of all applicable records, training and maintenance must be sought and provided for aircraft, engineers, pilots and cabin crew.
Pointing to Qatar’s inferior flight duty time limitations and rest requirements, Unite warned that unless these had been ‘transitioned’ to meet EU requirements and a standardisation visit had taken place by the European Aviation Safety Agency, the ‘wet lease’ would not be compliant.
Additionally, Unite warned that if a bi-lateral international agreement between the EU and Qatar covering ‘wet leasing’ does not exist then approval for the lease would not comply and should be automatically refused.
Unite members working for British Airways’ mixed fleet are set to strike from 00:01 Saturday 1 July to 23:59 Sunday 16 July amid accusations that the airline was operating a ‘blacklist’ by sanctioning cabin crew who took strike action in a long running pay dispute.

Commenting Unite national officer Oliver Richardson said: “The Civil Aviation Authority must refuse British Airways’ application to ‘wet lease’ aircraft from outside the European Union as it is doubtful the airline can demonstrate it is compliant with aviation law covering safety.

“British Airways should be focusing its energies on resolving the dispute instead of seeking to lease aircraft from half way around the globe at an estimated cost of £5,000 per hour.

“That it is leasing the aircraft from an airline found to have breached international standards on labour and human rights by telling female cabin crew they would be sacked if they became pregnant is doubly shameful.

“It is an entirely avoidable waste of resources on behalf of British Airways and would not have happened, if the bosses had accepted our compromise offer on the outstanding issue of sanctions.

“Instead, British Airways faces the disruption of a two week strike and legal action on behalf of over 1,400 mixed fleet cabin crew over the way it targeted striking members of cabin crew.

“We would urge British Airways’ bosses to come to their senses and think again.”

A ‘wet lease’ is a leasing arrangement where one airline, the lessor, provides an aircraft complete with crew, maintenance and insurance to another airline. Previous strike action by British Airways’ mixed fleet cabin crew led to the airline wet leasing aircraft from European compliant airlines, such as Titan Airways, Vueling and Thomson Airways.

Unite is ‘vigorously’ pursuing legal action against British Airways on behalf of 1,400 cabin crew, who were sanctioned for taking strike action in a long running pay dispute.

Central to the claims will be the accusation that British Airways has formed a blacklist to impose sanctions on striking cabin crew. Sanctions have included cabin crew seeing bonus payments worth hundreds of pounds taken away and the removal of staff travel concessions.

Can't see QR FTL being that much different I heard heading towards EASA. Work permits would also point towards European crews employed by QR being used.

So someone thinks this QR airspace ban aint going anywhere for the time being!