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Oh just using the Iberia codes and callsign for now. I see it's being code-shared with American Airlines out of the gate, too.
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Give it 5 years and Terminal 5 will be full of 'Level' shiny green blue and white 380's, 777's etc
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.... id say Terminal 3 or LGW
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I don't think you'll ever see Level at LHR or LGW.
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Agree- Walsh has already said it will not be needed in the London market which can easily support the higher end premium carriers within the group
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I however would not be surprised to see Level in Manchester and not just for painting the aircraft.
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Level is performing ahead of expectations and will have 13 aircraft by 2019:
Willie Walsh: LEVEL to have 30 aircraft in five years :: Routesonline |
If it goes to Paris will that spell the end for Openskies BAs airline in Orly?
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Unfortunately, Openskies has a better name.
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Even if they fly from the same city, they compete in different markets. If OpenSkies closes, it will be because it hasn't worked.
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Well, there will be more than a dozen former airberlin A330s and crew to operate them on the market very soon. Apparently IAG bid for a part of airberlin in order to get their hands on the aircraft, but the move was stalled by Lufthansa as their feared LEVEL would set up shop at Dusseldorf to replace airberlin.
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My money is on Rome.
Large Vueling presence to supply connections. Ailing long haul carrier on death's door (Alitalia). |
My money is on Rome. |
Major expansion plans for LEVEL, sounds like other IAG airlines will operate from new bases....
Willie Walsh Keynote: The launch of LEVEL and what it really takes to be low cost-long haul :: Routesonline |
I don't think you'll ever see Level at LHR or LGW. |
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Originally Posted by nguba
(Post 9971662)
The next base is Paris Orly:
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IAG now demonstrating that if you want to establish a new pan European brand, it is easier to do at the low cost end of the market. The experiment of Openskies is no more.
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If Openskies is to become the Operating Company for Level, it avoids having to establish a new AOC. Interesting experiment because it is a challenge to turn a full service carrier into a low cost carrier.
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(Deleted Quote: "Must be difficult to transform a full cost carrier into a low cost carrier")
Not if you work for BA... |
Now that actually IS funny Plane.Silly
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Primera Air is also joining the Paris longhaul party offering Boston Newyork and Toronto.
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Are Level changing tack from just A330 longhaul? I see 3 ex Niki 321s have either acquired or are getting Level colours - anyone know what they plan to do with them? |
A321
I think Vueling is going to open a new base in Vienna next July, maybe the 15th.
Those planes will be operated by Level for Vueling. Strange movement |
I think it's the other way around, operated by the newly created Vueling Austria but in Level branding.
It looks like Level will eventually become the main LCC brand within IAG on both long haul and short haul, it's a more neutral brand and has no reputation attached to it like Vueling may have. |
LEVEL isnt really an airline, but a brand available within the IAG group for their airlines to use as a low-cost brand. In this case, Vueling Austria - due to native German speaking countries struggling with pronouncing Vueling! The current make up of LEVEL: Barcelona - operated by Iberia Paris - operated by Openskies Vienna - operated by Vueling Austria |
Airbus A321 -211 6454 OE-LCN Anisec Luftfahrt delivery 26jun18 BTS-VIE, after paint into Level cs (+ 6719 OE-LCR NWI-VIE) ex HB-IOU Airbus A321 -211 6629 OE-LCP Anisec Luftfahrt ferried 22jun18 LFBF-LDE-BTS for paint into Level cs prior delivery ex HB-JOV |
A321 OE-LCR
departed NWI Viernna bound 26th following repaint into Level Mark |
Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 10182574)
German speaking countries struggling with pronouncing Vueling! |
I'm sure we had this discussion a while ago. It's Catalan, BTW.
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Jensdad
Vueling is a play on a mix of Spanish and English. Vuel relates to Vuelar (/to fly) and 'ing'from English. So sort of flying but spanglish .... spaniards pronounce V like B , as in Valencia is pronounced Balencia and in this way Vueling will be pronounced Bueling in Spain, everywhere else I guess just as it reads with V! |
Originally Posted by EI-BUD
(Post 10183213)
Jensdad
...and 'ing'from English. So sort of flying but spanglish .... |
Originally Posted by jensdad
(Post 10183149)
I still don't know how to pronounce it! In Spanish it should be bwɛling' but who knows? Always been puzzled by the name - 'vuelo' means 'flight' but I'm not sure what the 'ing' is all about.
We have in Spanish “ando” like “ing” in English. bailando, cantando, saltando, volando, soņando..... means dancing, singing, jumping, flying or dreaming for example. Vuela -> Fly Vueling -> Volando could be “Flyando” if we change the words. |
Thanks for that, Lon12. I studied Spanish a while back but am very rusty at the minute!
Sorry for hijacking the thread about Level with a linguistic discussion about the word 'Vueling' everyone :) |
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 10183624)
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Is Vienna a large enough market to sustain all this activity? Laudamotion, Level and Wizzair are all new entrants with a based fleet.
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Don't forget Eurowings Europe and increased services from easyJet.
All in all Air Berlin / Niki weren't that big at Vienna like those combined are now. |
Seems to me as if the group is firefighting. Trying to be all things at once and failing in many areas. Are the Level staff still IB employees, if they are it must be costing lots of Euros!
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Originally Posted by HZ123
(Post 10184515)
Seems to me as if the group is firefighting. Trying to be all things at once and failing in many areas. Are the Level staff still IB employees, if they are it must be costing lots of Euros!
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