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runway30 19th Mar 2017 10:45

I think it is pretty clear that hubbing through Dublin is their offer for the UK regions. I can't see WW wanting to take traffic away from that.

inOban 19th Mar 2017 11:10

Does EI have flights to Punta Cana and Buenos Aires?

Are these already hubs or are IAG working with local LCCs make them into hubs?

nguba 19th Mar 2017 11:21

Willie Walsh has said that Level needs short-haul feed to make it work, so any growth is likely to be where Vueling or other IAG airlines can offer short-haul feed such as FCO.

rutankrd 19th Mar 2017 11:42

Punta Cana is PURE Point to Point leisure

Buenos has Oneworld connections available by LATAM Group however is actually a heavily local and traditionally high yielding market in the main.

BTW Aer Lingus are highly unlikely to serve the South American mainland continent any time soon.

Also runway30 you are wrong on the IAG hubbing over Dublin from the UK regions , its not happening . In fact Aer Lingus has reduced ! available UK - Dublin connection opportunities into the main North Atlantic departure banks ,Liverpool gone , Doncaster gone , Cardiff gone ( left to a Flybe codeshare).
Manchester and Birmingham flight have just one daily flight into the bank with an ATR meeting the later west coast and Hartford bank.

The other flights are very much UK-Eire Point to point traffic .

The numbers connecting across Dublin from the UK regions are much lower than many think/believe/expect.

In 2016 there were 1 million transits made over Dublin out of 26 million passengers - Just 4% and that included what ever Ethiopian were carrying and the price sensitive US-EU trade.

It small fry in the scheme of things. Heathrow remains the BA/AA hub of choice with Madrid serving the Southern part of the continent imho!

runway30 19th Mar 2017 11:44

Build a Vueling hub and then add Level long haul seems a pretty good strategy. It's a pity that the names are so terrible, I'm flying Vueling Level really trips off the tongue..............

runway30 19th Mar 2017 11:51

The reality is that in the U.K., IAG is competing with itself. Yes, other hubs and other alliances are available from the UK regions but the main competition is surface transport to Heathrow.

BigFrank 19th Mar 2017 18:57


Originally Posted by runway30 (Post 9711130)
I don't think that IAG will again make the mistake of competing with themselves in the UK.

On which side of your "again" does the current, and fairly recently instituted, BCN-LGW scenario with both Vueling as Vueling and Vueling as BA/Iberia/Vueling operating this route fall?

runway30 19th Mar 2017 23:41

Come on Frank. Connecting a large market to your most important low cost hub in Barcelona is a bit different to setting up a Vueling hub at Gatwick which would demonstrate that your major British brand has an uncompetitive cost base.

Fairdealfrank 24th Mar 2017 21:36


The reality is that in the U.K., IAG is competing with itself. Yes, other hubs and other alliances are available from the UK regions but the main competition is surface transport to Heathrow.
...which is not really convenient if referring to rail. The problem is the lack of a comprehensive domestic network (currently only 8 destinations) to feed longhaul. A series of codeshares could allow the convenience of through-ticketing.

Rail cannot offer that, what rail offers is the inconvenience of travel via London, as no long-distance trains stop at Heathrow.

As always with Heathrow, it comes back to the old chestnut: chronic lack of rwy capacity over many decades.

Heathrow Harry 24th Mar 2017 21:57

"what rail offers is the inconvenience of travel via London,"

ah yes - the dreaful inconvenince of several stations all on the Circle Line,. walk up and depart, no security, no limit on checked baggage, seats bookable for free, departures to all major cities at least every hour from 06:00 - midnight, a better safety record, and you can actually walk about on them

dreadfully inconvenient.........................

j636 19th Apr 2017 12:45

According to WW almost 108,000 tickets sold since airline launched on 17 March with around 50% in the age range of 18-34 and half of bookings made via app.

Quiet impressive after a month and they say its exceeded expectations.

nguba 6th May 2017 11:43

Latest update from IAG is that Level is performing well ahead of expectations.

More aircraft will be added and more routes will be launched from BCN next year and at least one European city will be added (most likely FCO).

nohold 6th May 2017 16:26

EC-MOY Airbus A330-200 departed Toulouse on Friday 5th May for opps by Level.

LAX_LHR 6th May 2017 16:30

EC-MOU will be painted into Level colours next week.

nohold 6th May 2017 16:39

Thanks LAX

nohold 7th May 2017 09:02

I hear EC-MOU is being painted at Manchester.

chaps1954 7th May 2017 12:02

Yes arrived with Iberia tail but rest all white

Ian

7Three7Specialist 12th May 2017 15:50

What an ugly "design".

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...66888836681682

ara01jbb 13th May 2017 10:28


Originally Posted by 7Three7Specialist (Post 9769000)

Not looking quite like it was presented in all the renderings; the main title was originally straddling the windows.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Y_xwOMx4h7dMr3

nguba 1st Jun 2017 10:55

The inaugural flight is today and Level will have five aircraft next year:

IAG Printer Friendly Version - News Release


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