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pax britanica 16th Jan 2017 15:42

Easy Jet-no friend of the environment
 
EasyJet -like all good companies claims to do its best for the environment but again like most companies aspects of this policy seem to be ignored or countered by other policies

This is what their Corporate web site says

Waste management

easyJet seeks to recycle as much waste as possible. On-board, easyJet has a two-bag waste collection system which separates recyclable material such as newspapers, plastic bottles and metal cans from general waste. We do not have control of the final management of on-board waste which is dependent on the facilities at each airport where waste is collected by local cleaning and ground handling contractors. easyJet also has recycling in place in its offices and hangars around its network.
A working group has been established to look at how easyJet can reduce waste across the airline’s operations. The group is considering all aspects of easyJet’s operations and in particular on-board waste. This includes working with easyJet’s supply chain, including Airbus, to identify potential on-board solutions and Gate Gourmet to reduce waste arising from the sale of on board food and beverages. The group is seeking improvements which will also engage staff and customers in the process of waste reduction.


Well it seems from another thread on Pprune that their engagement with staff on reducing waste is to order them to throw away all unused food and if they help themselves to as much as one unused sandwich headed for the rubbish sack then its the employee who gets the sack not the waste company.

Says a lot about any company that while they obviously want to stop pilfering (paying your staff fairly is usually a good way) sacking people for eating left over sandwiches so they are just thrown out and not recycled and completley wasted does just have tinge of hypocrisy about it

SWBKCB 16th Jan 2017 15:55


they help themselves

pilfering
Anybody work for a company where stealing isn't regarded as Gross Misconduct and will get you the sack?

p.s. - recycled sandwiches?

crablab 16th Jan 2017 15:58


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 9642932)
Anybody work for a company where stealing isn't regarded as Gross Misconduct and will get you the sack?

I think the point was that these sandwiches were headed for the bin, and thus it would a) be more environmentally friendly b) nice for the staff, if they were allowed to consume an unwanted item of food.

canberra97 16th Jan 2017 16:07

Crab lab

But where do you draw the line in circumstances like that, unless it was authorised by the company it will still be seen as 'stealing or pilfering' which ever way you look at it regardless of the fact that they might be heading for the bin it's still a matter of Gros Misconduct and therefore could be a sackable offence.

At 18 you have a lot to learn about working practices and employment T&Cs.

crablab 16th Jan 2017 16:09


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 9642954)
Crab lab

But where do you draw the line in circumstances like that, unless it was authorised by the company it will still be seen as 'stealing or pilfering' which ever way you look at it regardless of the fact that they might be heading for the bin it's still a matter of Gros Misconduct and therefore could be a sackable offence.

At 18 you have a lot to learn about working practices and employment T&Cs.

Oh indeed - but maybe if the company likes to follow rules to the letter, they can add an exception?

Maybe - but I do run my own company.

canberra97 16th Jan 2017 16:21


Originally Posted by crablab (Post 9642958)
Oh indeed - but maybe if the company likes to follow rules to the letter, they can add an exception?

Maybe - but I do run my own company.

With a company employing the amount of people that Easyjet do there would be no exceptions to the employees T&C and a company the size of Easyjet would have to make sure the that the staff 'follow rules to the letter' otherwise it's Gross Misconduct.

I'm sure at 18 'your company' doesn't employ 1000s of people.

crablab 16th Jan 2017 16:24


Originally Posted by canberra97 (Post 9642971)
With a company employing the amount of people that Easyjet do there would be no exceptions to the employees T&C and a company the size of Easyjet would have to make sure the that the staff 'follow rules to the letter' otherwise it's Gross Misconduct.

I'm sure at 18 'your company' doesn't employ 1000s of people.

My point was rather that they could, given the will power, write this into their Ts&Cs...

Nope, but I don't see the need to be disparaging. You can look it up if you want: 09755360

canberra97 16th Jan 2017 16:28

But why would Easyjet or any other company want to rewrite this in their T&Cs when it can easily be abused.

paully 16th Jan 2017 16:36

Don`t worry Crablab, from personal experience they treat their customers that way, as well. Then they wonder why pax numbers are falling :ugh:

ezycrew 16th Jan 2017 16:43

The food doesn't go in the bin, any unsold food get placed back into the cool bag and returned to the caters for proper disposal.

Best to know the facts before getting on your soap box

inOban 16th Jan 2017 17:05

Our local supermarket gives their remaining perishable food to the local soup kitchen. I'm also sure that I remember that some had a policy of letting staff purchase short-date food for a nominal amount, but not free.

HeartyMeatballs 16th Jan 2017 17:46

easyJet passengers are rising and load factors are over 90% with passengers rising 6.6% year on year between December 2015 and 2016.

pwalhx 16th Jan 2017 17:54

I once had to terminate the employment of one of my staff working in a logistics warehouse for helping himself to a pair of socks with a trade value of £0.99. I was a subject of some abuse from his colleague who said but they were only worth 99p. My response was to ask them to clarify at what financial amount does it then become stealing.

inOban 16th Jan 2017 18:07

Well it appears that the bosses of FTSE companies can trouser millions without any evidence that they have earned, ie deserved, it.

HeartyMeatballs 16th Jan 2017 18:09

Indeed. They cost the companies they work tens of millions of pounds in mismanagement yet still walk away with millions themselves. They even change the goalposts to protect their own bonuses whilst denying frontline staff any bonus of their own.

paully 16th Jan 2017 19:14

Hearty Meatballs...

Back in June they were putting that story out, then issued a profit warning a couple of days later, blaming it on Brexit, which raised the brokers eyebrows.

Then in October they issued another profit warning and revealed profits were down 28%..sure pax numbers were up but obviously little yield from them. My point is many of the loyal yield raising pax had left them, more numbers replacing at rock bottom rates isnt good for business..

Anyway back to mouldy sarnies..much more interesting :ok:

Thad Jarvis 16th Jan 2017 19:16

The point made in tribunal was that the accused CA wasn't actually stealing. She didn't set out that day with the primary aim of pilfering a bacon roll. The only guilt appears to be use of initiative (largely frowned upon in easyJet)
Anyone who has endured Easyjet crew food will tell you the passenger offering is 500% better than that given to crew yet daily crew are forced to bin anything leftover. Most of the crew food gets binned nowadays as very few will touch it.

DC9_10 16th Jan 2017 19:21

The cabin manager made a decision to give the crew member a baguette as the crew member had a nut allergy and she was not catered for the duty. Had the cabin manager recorded this on the CFR for that day's duty, I don't think this would have went as far as it did.

pax britanica 16th Jan 2017 21:07

Having started the thread as little social experiment that making it an environmental rather than HR isse might get more atention

So what has been demonstrated

1 policies must be adhered to -well unless you are exec levels ian company
2 many people today are heartless bastards and think it is OK or sensible to sack people for this kind of thing, No reason at all why she should not have got verbal warning
3 managers-or thosewho apply the rules (not managers in my book no better than supervisors but thats an old fashioned term) do nott hink of the consequences-easyjet end up in employment court and look
1 nasty and cheap
2 Mean spirited
3 just plain silly
4 Not a good company to work for

4 In a world of waste chucking away food is poor practice unless it is unfit or out of date and makes easyjet look even more Orange than green

So a fair bit of publicity for Ez and all of it negative, perhaps if they paid their staff properly and did not treat them with contempt-see comments about crew food maybe pilfering would drop substantially

5 I was on EZ in December and on the return flight they had forgotten to put a large portion of the BoB food on board, would the responsible person have been sacked for that

Barling Magna 16th Jan 2017 22:20


I once had to terminate the employment of one of my staff working in a logistics warehouse for helping himself to a pair of socks with a trade value of £0.99. I was a subject of some abuse from his colleague who said but they were only worth 99p. My response was to ask them to clarify at what financial amount does it then become stealing.
I take it you are joking? Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men. No manager worth his salt would sack an employee for such an offence - they would receive a formal warning - unless there was an ulterior motive (along the lines of imprisoning Al Capone for tax offences which could be proven rather than for murder and extortion which could not).


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