Petition to remove liquids restriction for UK aircrew
 

Please folow the link to sign...

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131431

Hasn't this been done before and had a woeful outcome?

Besides, there are far more pressing issues for the UK government to be dealing with than this right now... :zzz:

Strangely 'government' can do more than one thing at a time.

Signed

If it was a petition to remove liquids restrictions for passengers, too, I might be interested. But introducing exemptions for crew alone would just lead to confusion at the 'security' lanes.

Pilots can well afford to buy a bottle of water and a yoghurt at the airside Boots.

It doesn't lead to confusion anywhere else in Europe. Its also not really about affordability - I would rather bring things that I have bought and chosen than be stuck with having to make a choice from an often woeful selection at airside shops. Not to mention with some companys/airports you will never actually be in the terminal building.

It would introduce the new security risk of people smuggling items airside by impersonating aircrew (wear the uniform, strut around importantly and only cast a glance at non-aircrew types when looking for something to spit at - it's not hard). The idea is that airside is a sanitised box - you don't drill holes in the walls of operating theatres so that the surgeons can grab their fags...

PDR

An over sized yogurt is now an new security risk?

Don't you think impersonating aircrew has been tried before only with things that go bang? It's not exactly a new thing so strangely there are procedures in place.

...and this petition is seeking to remove them. That's kinda the point!

PDR

Nope, it's asking to remove the liquid restrictions on crew. Not to remove any and every restriction on anyone passing through security.

Anyone impersonating aircrew is still as likely to get nicked.

Of course. that can never happen. Can it.

:)

PDR

And what about ATC? Not just flight crew who should be exempt. ATC have just as much 'right' given their access at their workplace as you guys claim to. :=

PDR, of course it can. That's why I said it was still as likely. Although since those incidents awareness of its possibility will be raised.

I'm not sure that anyone will go to the lengths required to access airside as an active crew member just so they can take their toothpaste with them though.

Hmmm, what could possibly go wrong, it's not like there might be international rules and regulations that prevent this?

The rules that prevent aircrew from taking larger containers of fluids through security in the UK and showing them separately are UK rules. In other parts of the world NO crew are subject to these restrictions, their security personnel seem to be able to cope with understanding and recognising the difference between aircrew and passengers. And yes we can fly from there to here making a mockery of our home grown policy.

Travel around South America and there are no liquid restrictions for anyone.
Travel around Asia, not much attention is paid to what is "scanned"

A multi million security empire has emerged to prevent that dodgy yoghurt passing from one side of a counter to another.

As we have seen, determined bad guys, will always find a way - yoghurt bans or not.

Why should the general members of the travelling public trust air crew more than anyone else.

There are recent events that suggest that they should not.

Centre cities

If they don't trust the crew, don't fly.

What an absurd conjecture you posit.

A UK airport that I often use has an apparent exemption in order that the fire crew, who within the Restricted Zone (UK definition), can take liquids airside, for example milk and soft drinks, with a summary sight by security staff. Makes a complete nonsense of the ban.

Anyone remember a guy called Andreas Lubitz?

Aircrew are not a master race free from corruption of the mind and should be subject to the same restrictions as everyone else.

On the contrary, it sounds eminently sensible to me.

If my flight is going to end up a smouldering wreck on a UK runway, I'll be hoping that the boys and girls of the ARFF crew have had their daily pintas.