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BHX5DME 17th Jun 2016 12:09

Surely the airport supply all the data, the CAA just pull it together - How hard can that be ?

EastMids 17th Jun 2016 13:57

The way it was explained to me was:

1. Airports provide figures to a third party
2. Third part collates figures
3. CAA publish figures on their website

However, the way in which figures are reported has changed due to some new EU regulation. Airports will be fined if they don't produce the figures in a certain way. Almost all airports have made the change, the third party has adapted, but the CAA system (or website?) cannot yet accept figures in the revised format.

Don't shoot the messenger - just what I'm told...

eye2eye5 17th Jun 2016 15:20


Originally Posted by EastMids (Post 9411666)
The way it was explained to me was:

1. Airports provide figures to a third party
2. Third part collates figures
3. CAA publish figures on their website

However, the way in which figures are reported has changed due to some new EU regulation. Airports will be fined if they don't produce the figures in a certain way. Almost all airports have made the change, the third party has adapted, but the CAA system (or website?) cannot yet accept figures in the revised format.

Don't shoot the messenger - just what I'm told...

That may very well be correct, East Mids, but just how difficult would it be for the CAA to communicate that information to everyone? They need to become rather more customer focussed.

sinbad73 17th Jun 2016 16:03

The CAA should be fined!

GrahamK 18th Jun 2016 03:51

Perhaps most people are refusing to have their boarding cards scanned at WHSmith now and theres insufficient data to process ;)

Musket90 18th Jun 2016 21:13

CAA is not a government department. It's totally financed by industry, so if it's fined for any reason it's industry who are paying it.

118.70 6th Jul 2016 08:53

From

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...ply.pdfhttp://


Your request:
‘When are you going to bother publishing Airport Statistics for the month of April 2016?
Is there a timetable for future release of Airport Statistics or are they publishd only if you
can be bothered?
https://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analy...rtdata/’
Our response:
Having considered your request in line with the provisions of the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 (FOIA), we are able to provide the information below.
We have recently launched a new system called AvStats for processing and reporting on
Airport and Airline data. With the launch of this new system there is currently a delay to the
release of published reports. We hope to have this updated shortly, but at this time we are
unable to give a definitive date when the reports will be published.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you. We will update our release dates
page as soon as further information is available at
http://www.caa.co.uk/Data-and-analys...K-Airportdata/
Release-dates---airport-data/
Further information relating to AvStats can be found at
https://www.

flyerboy 6th Jul 2016 17:45

April stats are now available on their website

Flightrider 6th Jul 2016 19:15

It's quite extraordinary. If the CAA saw a UK airline publishing an indefinite delay to a flight and providing no information to its customers for two months, they'd be all over them like a rash. However, it's perfectly acceptable for the CAA to do the same thing in reverse to users of the statistics service including, I presume, UK airlines. Totally unacceptable state of affairs.

LGS6753 7th Jul 2016 10:19

Two notable absentees - LTN and STN

Jamesair 7th Jul 2016 16:47

The stats involving NCL seem to be full of unlikely figures, I don't how other airports figures look.

eye2eye5 7th Jul 2016 16:58


Originally Posted by Jamesair (Post 9432763)
The stats involving NCL seem to be full of unlikely figures, I don't how other airports figures look.

LPL appears to be reasonably accurate.

BHX5DME 4th Aug 2016 19:41

May figures not until w/c 01.09.16 !!

Airline data release notes | UK Civil Aviation Authority

j636 3rd Sep 2016 12:44

May and June both out now.

inOban 3rd Sep 2016 13:00

missing data
 
A large number of airports are missing from the June data, including Luton stansted and Glasgow

Expressflight 3rd Sep 2016 13:13

........ and a lot of use they are with so many major airports' data not being included. Surely someone at the CAA needs to be held accountable for this shambles

Red Four 3rd Sep 2016 13:26

'CAA' and 'held accountable' in a single sentence - a novel concept... but one I could not disagree with.

CaptainDoony 3rd Sep 2016 17:36

It would surely have been less time consuming to say which airports are available for June! :ugh:

MerchantVenturer 3rd Sep 2016 17:53

The CAA is also discontinuing a number of its tables with a further table, on the CAA's own admission, not yet published because there are too many omissions and yet another one contains a number of airports marked as 'unknown' which the CAA says it is investigating.

LEEDS APPROACH 8th Oct 2016 20:26

This is an absolute scandalous disgrace! In a world where failing airports are bankrolling airlines to come and operate unsustainable routes with half empty aircraft - now Joe Public cannot check the passenger amounts per sector flown (load factor) on certain routes for months.

After 6 months, of course, no one is particularly interested in the load factors for May! We get the 'booming airport' headlines in the local rag while at the same time the important information is hidden from the Public. Don't tell me this is an accident! This is certainly not progress from a system that worked perfectly fine. Hide the real facts from the Public and let's keep them in ignorant bliss while we waste tax payers money on private companies.


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