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davidjohnson6 17th Mar 2016 19:11

Fly Kiss
 
New start-up flying between Lorient and Lyon in France, replacing Eastern Airways.
I've had a look at the website, but info on them seems a little brief. Anyone know anything about them ? Seem to be a trading name of Enhance Aero and have a link to Slovenian SI Avia, but not quite sure what the link is

virginblue 17th Mar 2016 21:09

They are a long established company based, IIRC, at Clermont-Ferrand. I seem to recall that they have also plans to open routes from Clermont-Ferrand. They have a handful of ERJ145 at their disposal.

bgt66 5th May 2016 21:04

never begun or already stopped ?

LEEDS APPROACH 5th May 2016 22:24


Originally Posted by bgt66 (Post 9367348)
never begun or already stopped ?

I am sure a fly kiss liveried aircraft was parked next to us at LIG the other week. Possibly Emb 145.

MAJP 6th May 2016 07:29

Never start

bgt66 6th May 2016 16:03

It does exist : currently on CFE apron in front of Enhance hangar... but the line...

SWBKCB 11th May 2016 15:21

EMB-145 F-HFKG was flying between Limoge and Lyon in FlyKiss cls and using a Challair callsign in April

bgt66 11th May 2016 19:57

Possibly a charter flight...

Limoges/Lyon normally operated by Chalair.

Switch from B1900 to E145 would be surprising

SWBKCB 11th May 2016 20:14

Looking at FR24 it appears to run several times a day, usually on Atr-42's

bgt66 11th May 2016 20:24

Chalair effectively seems to operate 3 ATR42 from Lease Fly

Boeing737-8 14th Sep 2016 22:41

Could it be possible that they might start. Planned flights to LTN seem ambitious and I though an airline with a small plane like this might be thinking of Southend.(E145)

lwaw1uk 15th Sep 2016 18:49

F-HFKG EMB145 been parked at Bournemouth for last few days after doing charter from PRG
Photo on https://m.flickr.com/photos/leeweston/29569298472

davidjohnson6 24th Oct 2016 08:10

Flights are due to start on 07 November. As this is just 2 weeks away, EU261 starts to become active in the event FlyKiss flights are cancelled or heavily delayed.
For small startup airlines, it is not unknown for an airline to put lots of routes on sale, wait for bookings to come in, and then modify schedules so that just the routes with reasonably healthy passenger demand are flown and avoid the airline going bust.

Anyone have any thoughts as to whether thing really will go ahead with FlyKiss and whether their schedule will be sustainable ?

COMMS2 24th Oct 2016 08:18

Heard operations due to start this Nov as reflected on their website. Recently recruited some crews to operate the schedule. Rumour is they are looking to expand further next year.

COMMS2 24th Oct 2016 08:22

They already delayed ops once for some reason or another. Until they start on the 7th then we'll see how things pan out. At the moment, think they are doing charters.

davidjohnson6 20th Nov 2016 18:01

Flew from Clermont-Ferrand with FlyKiss (not on launch day)
49 seat E145 which had 8 fare paying passengers. Yes, 16 % load factor. Ground staff at Clermont-Ferrand, the main base for FlyKiss, hinted that loads have been consistently less than healthy.
Service on board was however very good.

The parent company, SiAvia, can probably cope for a while, and based on FR24 they seem to have been pretty rigorous about always operating flights since launch date, but I'm guessing commercial pressures may soon influence the flight schedule.

LGS6753 20th Nov 2016 19:31

It's a difficult month to start ops, particularly to/from provincial France.

COMMS2 8th Dec 2016 17:50

That's a very low Load Factor. But at least they made a start and didn't delay the ops again.
Hmmmmmmm, see what happens after a few months........

davidjohnson6 11th May 2017 15:12

As mentioned by robbie1973, FlyKiss are ending all scheduled flights on 27 May
Press reports show they had 15,000 pax over 1,200 flights using a 49-seat E145, which equates to a 26 % load factor. Company had hoped for 100,000 pax per year or a little bit under 50,000 pax by now - presumably pax numbers were about a third of their original forecasts

Credit to them for trying, and credit also for knowing when to stop and have an orderly wind down of operations

Falcon666 11th May 2017 15:23

Can't help but think that starting in October wasn't the best idea , especially the French regional links to the UK.
Sadly the summer forward bookings haven't hit expectations but at least they can hopefully revert back to ad hoc flights again.
Difficult for start ups these days!


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