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AvGeek1 14th Feb 2016 18:51

ROUTE SPECULATION
 
I though it would be a good idea to set up a special thread related to route speculation as many people in most of the airport threads get wound up by people who like to speculate routes, like myself. So fire away with all of your route speculations! :E

Routes that I have been thinking about from some UK airports:

Luton-Tenerife (easyJet)
Luton-Oslo
Luton-Stockholm
Luton-Dubrovnik (easyJet)
Luton-Krakow
Luton-Rome (Vueling)
Luton-Madrid (Vueling)
Luton-Eindhoven (Transavia)
Luton-Marseille (easyJet)
Luton-Athens (easyJet)
Luton-Orlando (Thomson)
Luton-Cancun (Thomson)

Gatwick-Singapore (Singapore Airlines)
Gatwick-Bangkok (Norwegian)
Gatwick-Las Vegas (Norwegian)
Gatwick-Abu Dhabi (Etihad Airways)
Gatwick-Doha (Qatar Airways)

Heathrow-Orlando (BA/Virgin)
Heathrow-Singapore (Virgin)
Heathrow-Manila (British Airways)

Glasgow-Brussels
Glasgow-Copenhagen
Glasgow-Frankfurt (Lufthansa)

Manchester-Shanghai (China Eastern)
Manchester-Singapore (Direct)

Birmingham-Valencia

What are your thoughts about these routes?

These are mainly from the UK, but feel free to contribute from anywhere.

BHX5DME 14th Feb 2016 19:12

Birmingham to Chicago - AA

sf01 14th Feb 2016 19:27

Glasgow- US 'leisure' destinations (Thomas Cook )
Glasgow- Istanbul (Turkish)
Glasgow - Atlanta (Delta/VS)
Glasgow- Munich
Glasgow-Madrid


Edinburgh- Orlando (Norwegian) Thomson run a very limited amount of flights


Glasgow/Edinburgh to China

wallp 14th Feb 2016 19:30

Luton to Dubrovnik (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Prague (easyJet)
Luton to Tallinn (Wizz)
Luton to Isle of Man (easyJet)
Luton to Cork (Ryanair)
Luton to Shannon (Ryanair)
Luton to Florence (Vueling)
Luton to Cagliari (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Palermo (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Valencia (easyJet)

Gatwick to San Francisco (Norwegian)
Gatwick to Miami (Norwegian)
Gatwick to Fort Lauderdale (British Airways or Virgin Atlantic)
Gatwick to Nassau (British Airways)
Gatwick to Seychelles (British Airways)

Ringwayman 14th Feb 2016 19:33

Some of your "route speculation" has been operated before and been canned by the airlines you've suggested. Must be a reason for that!

MAN-Shanghai already got the nod for Air China to start this year according to some reports but not yet announced.

That route will be one of 25 long-haul routes that MAN states it is targetting as viable.

LAX_LHR 14th Feb 2016 19:33

Manchester-Shanghai route licence is held by Air China so already prevents China Eastern starting a flight, it is expected to launch in June.

Other routes I hope come to fruition:

Bucharest- Ryanair rumoured, but would also take TAROM
Seville- Ryanair or Vueling likely
Florence- potential for Vueling, Monarch, Easyjet or Jet2 to start
Cape Town- Ripe for Thomas Cook to start
Tampa- Ditto above
Bordeaux- cant believe with MANs level of flights this remains unserved. Flybe.
Lyon- Only served in winter, capable of being year round with Easyjet.

Leave it there as could be a long list. I don't see any of the above being unrealistic.

LBIA 14th Feb 2016 19:54

Leeds-Bradford pertential routes and rumours are as follows.

Madrid = Iberia Express or Monarch.
Berlin = Jet2
Newquay = flybe
Brussels = Eastern Airways
Belfast Int'l = Ryanair

Here's hoping Extrajet get off the ground with routes to Antwerp and Copenhagen

Also talk that Ryanair maybe adding a 4th based Boeing 737-800 next summer

AvGeek1 14th Feb 2016 21:04

Gatwick-San Francisco is technically going to be operated soon with Norwegian starting flights to Oakland this year.

I also think that many more Italian, Spanish & French estinations could be operated from the UK, especially from Luton & Manchester. Also Gatwick could be receive much more long-haul services.

Does anyone have any suggestions for new easyJet routes from Gatwick? They haven't announced anything for S16, but could announce routes in W16.

MANFOD 14th Feb 2016 21:48

To LAX-LHR's excellent list for MAN, I'll be brave and add 3 long haul.

San Francisco - TCX but possibly VS

Bangkok - Again maybe TCX or Norwegian as an outsider.

India (Mumbai or Delhi) - Anybody please.

davidjohnson6 14th Feb 2016 21:58

AvGeek - excellent idea of yours to start this thread - will hopefully make everyone happier.

EK77WNCL 14th Feb 2016 22:04

NCL-IST: Turkish
NCL-STN/LCY: Ryanair/Cityjet
NCL-FRA: bmi regional
NCL-GDN, WAW, BUD, RIX: Wizzair
NCL-HAM: Eurowings
NCL-MXP, MUC, KEF, RAK, JMK: easyjet
NCL-Cape Verde, PVR, PUJ: Thomson
NCL-MAD: Vueling/Iberia Express
NCL-YYZ: Westjet

Plus a few more one off charters, maybe TCX or VS to Las Vegas or something like that, I'm sure they could fill 1 A330 a year, Ryanair base would be great if they could boost already busy markets like PMI, TFS, FAO, ACE and maybe introduce a few more unserved ones in Spain, Italy etc.

Someone to Norway would also be up there in my wish list for NCL as well as a return of Venice, Berlin and maybe a few more, that's probably easyjet/Ryanair territory

AvGeek1 14th Feb 2016 22:19


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 9269951)
AvGeek - excellent idea of yours to start this thread - will hopefully make everyone happier.

Thank you! I just thought it will make the threads a happier place without certain people taking a dislike to people's route speculations.

I'm also pleased at all of the speculation so far as they all seem quite realistic and could work. Keep them coming guys! Also feel free to speculate routes outside of the UK too!

AvGeek1 14th Feb 2016 22:23


Originally Posted by wallp (Post 9269825)
Luton to Dubrovnik (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Prague (easyJet)
Luton to Tallinn (Wizz)
Luton to Isle of Man (easyJet)
Luton to Cork (Ryanair)
Luton to Shannon (Ryanair)
Luton to Florence (Vueling)
Luton to Cagliari (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Palermo (easyJet or Monarch)
Luton to Valencia (easyJet)

Gatwick to San Francisco (Norwegian)
Gatwick to Miami (Norwegian)
Gatwick to Fort Lauderdale (British Airways or Virgin Atlantic)
Gatwick to Nassau (British Airways)
Gatwick to Seychelles (British Airways)

What an excellent list wallp! I definately agree that there should be more Italian routes from Luton. Also that easyJet should provide some more sensible times on the Luton-Prague route in competition with Wizz.

Also Gatwick could have many more long-haul destinations than it currently has and I think more US routes like Miami could definately be on the cards!

Una Due Tfc 14th Feb 2016 22:26

DUB-PVG: China Eastern
DUB-IAH: EI, Ethiopian 5th freedom
DUB-MIA: EI/AA

Those seem to be the 3 long haul rumours ex DUB with the most legs atm.

AvGeek1 14th Feb 2016 22:28

I think easyJet has much more room to expand its operation at Manchester and they will also be adding some obvious gaps (Milan & Paris) in S16. What other routes do you think easyJet could operate realistically and successfully from Manchester?

Some obvious gaps like;

Lanzarote
Faro
Rome
Barcelona

Una Due Tfc 14th Feb 2016 22:31

I think any airport with a decent number of destinations/carriers in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco might suddenly find new Spanish and Portuguese destinations on the departure boards this year....

Charlie Roy 14th Feb 2016 22:42


DUB-PVG: China Eastern
DUB-IAH: EI, Ethiopian 5th freedom
DUB-MIA: EI/AA

Those seem to be the 3 long haul rumours ex DUB with the most legs atm.
Anna.aero analysis also agrees that DUB-MIA is viable. Aer Lingus would be more that more logical choice given there is more demand in the DUB-MIA direction.
Skyscanner Unserved Route of the Week: Dublin-Miami

mwm991 14th Feb 2016 22:46

I'm down in Cumbria part-time, but I also live in Glasgow part-time and thats where I'm from. The thread has descended from speculation to pure fantasy almost instantly, so I'm gonna go that way too.

For GLA to sustain its continued growth and for the benefit of the local economy then, there absolutely has to be an increase in the range of European routes, which Edinburgh is hoovering up. At the moment there is nothing to mainland Scandinavia, a seasonal weekly service with LH to Munich, no IST, MAD, LIS, BRU, FRA to name but a few.

The questions are can the local population support these routes? Is there enough interest from foreign tourists? What about the business community?

PPRuNeUser0176 14th Feb 2016 22:52


Bucharest- Ryanair rumoured, but would also take TAROM
FR have a press conference this week on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Skipness One Foxtrot 14th Feb 2016 23:48

BA going back on MAN-JFK on a B787-8, that's a surefire winner IMHO.


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