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highfly146 30th May 2002 09:26

Ciaofly
 
Does anyone know anything about this new start up? They are claiming a start date on 1 July operating 2 BAe-146`s.:confused:

captain ochre 30th May 2002 11:01

see ciao-fly luton posting of buster the bear 27th May

Tiger 30th May 2002 11:29

This new Italian airline is starting to sound more and more Debonair mark 2. If you take into account Discovery with the same livery as Debonair mark 3.
If it has anything to do with same people 2 years max!

World Traveller 30th May 2002 13:25

www.ciaofly.com
 
Hmmm, 'the lowfare airline with the frills' it calls itself. Looking at the timetable it is a single aircraft required. Better be reliable. Free newspapers, and food from the region around Parma (implied to be free). Flying the BAe146 (though it doesn't say this on the website, lots of pictures of 757s and things, preseumably stolen from Boeing's website). Large swathes of the general information page sound copied from Ryanair (e.g. "Ciao Fly is a point to point airline..." etc, even though no sensible connections could ever be made - in the summer timetable!) Fares from Euro19......

I agree it sounds exactly like Debonair.

That said, theres a book out called 'No Frills' where in an interview with Mancessola he admits the 146 was the wrong type of aeroplane, but remains coinvinced the rest of the operation "very nearly made it".

But good luck to them anyway.

WT
<just a punter>

VIKING9 30th May 2002 14:45

yes and if you read the last part of the document, Mr M, who is currently heading a seat manufacturing company in Italy, is quoted as saying "If I leave now now, it's to start another airline. If not, I'll fade away in the sunset".

Will Ciaofly have a big C on the tail ??

highfly146 30th May 2002 20:54

The question I raise is, after calling them in Switzerland. I spoke to a gentleman which said that they will be operating under a UK AOC with Uk reg.
The only problem with this is if you speak to the CAA which will be issuing the AOC they have never heard from them. Not even an application.
Can anyone throw any light on this:eek:

flysr4ever 31st May 2002 21:54

Hello,

Someone on theLow Cost Carriers Yahoo Group posted that Flightline will actually be operating Ciao-Fly's flights.

Jeremiah

Mary Mungo & Midge 1st Jun 2002 19:45

Do Flightline operate ex Debonair 146's?

Tiger 1st Jun 2002 19:49

Yes I believe 2 or 3 went to FlightLine after Debonair went bust.

jetgirl 4th Jun 2002 21:08

Yes the three old ladies (G-DEBK/L/M) re-registered as G-DEFK etc carried on in Swissair colours until the bitter end. They then went to Aberdeen for the oil contract but are now being retired due to their VERY high cycles.

G-DEBE also went to Flightline (and was never re-registered) but is now on dry lease to Cityjet and is operating in AF colours.

Flightline have just gained another old Deb one - I think from BMI Regional and have registered it as G-FLTB. Dont know which one.

Still lots of ex-debs crews at Flightline, and after the last 6 months there I hope this is more work for them!!!!

Buster the Bear 5th Jun 2002 19:44

Luton to Liege daily has been added!

Buster the Bear 6th Jun 2002 18:25

You can book Luton to Beauvais from August according to the Ciao-Fly web site!

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 7th Jun 2002 12:06

Luton to Beauvais
 
Buster - you could book .... but now you can't!!!!:D

Buster the Bear 8th Jun 2002 09:25

Too true, they were offering the flights for 19.99 each way plus tax, luckily I didn't book them then!

Buster the Bear 25th Jun 2002 08:52

What is going on now?

The flight schedules were showing double daily Luton-Parma, with a sigle rotation to Liege, now their web site shows a single Parma and now a flight daily to Beauvais. Liege now dropped, looks like the new schedules can be operated with a single aircraft.

I wonder what will change next, first flights on july 1st!

LTN man 25th Jun 2002 17:13

I will give them a month before they bite the dust.

VIKING9 26th Jun 2002 17:18

as long as that ?? Who is behind this outfit anyway, surely not the Mr M from another defunct carrier, who also flew 146's....

Buster the Bear 27th Jun 2002 20:47

Now good ole Leyton, the Buzzard bear tells me that Ciao may well be flying to another destination from Luton soon?

Percy is still on to arrive on July 1st

Ciao fly for now!

OLNEY 1 BRAVO 28th Jun 2002 11:07

Buster - Leyton is right. Monchengladbach - Luton is due to start on 19th July enabling your long lost cousin Claudia Bear to visit you!!!:D

VIKING9 28th Jun 2002 11:10

MGL-LTN ???? Don't tell me, it leaves MGL at about 1730z....... Next will be PEG, then BCN or will it be BCN, maybe MUC !!!


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