I've not seen a formal announcement as such. I can see and understand the business case for closing the SNN base however I would expect the routes to still operate to BHX/EDI to be served via a W from Dublin or Cork but perhaps only at 1 daily on a 72.

It would seem that the winter schedule of ORK A/C is the busiest since EIR started with GLA and BRS both W rotations to Dublin to now fully utilise ORK A/C. As a result there has been some shift in some crew down from other bases.

Good to see EHH getting a new coat - it has needed it for a while. I guess if they do a cabin refit then it will look like its staying a while.

Any plans for new A/C yet?

The only reason a cabin refit might be possible (in my mind) is that seeing as BYO and CPT are now no more than a pile of mixed metals, they will have had their relatively fresh interiors with the newer seats ripped out, so maybe CBK and EHH may be able to be fitted with them, lord knows there's enough down time at the moment for them both to get a refit.

There's no rumours of new aircraft on the horizon, so I imagine that the current set-up is here to stay for a while.

I do know that CBK has a relatively new interior with black leather seats similar to those that SLN and SLL had. As regards EHH i'm not sure, did it not get an upgrade when the other AT43's did?

Both EHH and CBK both have the slimline navy seats very similar to those on the new '600s.

SNN staff have been offered redeployment. Some suggestion routes will be saved, though I wouldn't be too optimistic.....expect some public info quite soon I'm sure

Any news on the awarding of new carrier on Donegal & Kerry PSO yet??

I heard that Stobart Air is once more without a CEO with effect from last week. :confused:

PSO awarded to Stobart Air
 

Just announced on Donegal radio station Highland FM that Stobart have been awarded the PSO tender for the Donegal - Dublin flight until Jan 2017

Julian Carr Resigns
 

Interesting development with Julian Carr resigning after only six months in the job.

Stobart boss Carr resigns after just six months in job - Independent.ie

Good to see that Stobart's culture of revolving door management is as alive and well in it's airline as it is in SEN's structure. Send up another one, this one's had it!!

The Irish Times (12 May) reports changes at Stobart Air

Stobart Air boss resigns after bid rejected

JAS

Another one bites the dust. The revolving door seems to be the busiest piece of equipment in the Stobart group. Also I see Tim Jeans has also left the company - he of Ryanair, Monarch and all points West. What a shambles. Personally I would not like to work for Mr Tinkler - probably wouldn't have me anyway!

Interesting article. The speculation was that Stobart Group were looking to sell their share in the airline, but in fact it is Invesco who are wanting to sell. Stobart are even considering buying out the remaining share!

So the Chief Executive that was leading a management buy out has resigned because the main shareholder might not be selling after all - no wonder he left... :eek:

I still fail to understand how Stobart let the SEN DUB service go to FLY-Be after it was doing so well in 2015 with upto 3 daily flights and good loads. They should at least have brought it back in the STOBART AIR name and aircraft after FLY-Be quickly set up and withdrew their LCY-DUB service.

Here we are 2 years down the road and still no resurrection of the service when there is a potential of 70000 pax pa who used it in 2015. One ATR could handle 3 return flights per day

Let's hope the management still remaining at Stobart Air have resumption of the service at the top of their wish list. Every little helps to achieve Stobarts PAX figure for Southend of 2.5 million expected by 2018 when it is currently about or just below the 1.0 million

I'm also surprised that SEN-DUB hasn't been brought back under EIr

All quite odd considering.

cs

You have to make the assumption that since they must know the true numbers, despite the volume it's not as profitable as some others may think?

TartinTon

If that was so why would DUB-SEN have been described as their 'core SEN route' in January 2015 when finalising their plans for the other SEN routes?

I can't help but speculate Shamrock sharing with CityFlyer out of LCY neither were prepared to allow a DUB-SEN Shamrock service (operated by STOB) to threaten the LCY pax volumes.

TartinTon

You are correct, we don't have access to the accounts.

However, it is fact that passenger numbers on the DUB route exceeded those of the European routes. It is fact that fares on the DUB route were not lower than the European routes. Therefore if it lost money, it surely lost far less money than the European routes and contributed more to parking income, spend in the terminal and prestige.

It also seems to be the case that where EIR is up against competition elsewhere they are holding their own, probably helped by transatlantic connections.

It seems that the relationship between Stobart Air and the airports has become more "arms-length" than it was. I believe that EI own the -600s and lease them to STK, which probably dictates a large part of where they operate to. Stobart allowed flyBe to take over the DUB-SEN route, for reasons which were never clear to me. Its strange that they have never resumed the route - unless the aircraft can gain better returns elsewhere.

SEN-DUB lost money.

You got trend data to support the comment?

I think they part funded them however may as well own them as they are only for EIR ops. Now that was for the 6 ordered in 2013, since then they have almost doubled the ATR 600 a/c with number 11 been delivered in the last 2-3 weeks. 4 extra aircraft added to EIR within 12 months to take it from 10 to 14.

I heard recently that some of Stobart's ATR 72-600s are configured differently than the standard 72 seats, could anyone provide any further information please? Geeky question... sorry!

The 3 new 600s (FMJ/K and FNA) are all in 70Y config, the original 8 are in 72Y

Thanks cumbrianboy, appreciated!

DUB to EMA, DSA and Cardiff being axed apparently

Stobart Air axing routes between Dublin and Britain - The Sunday Business Post

Any other source? Doesn't seem reliable.

It's reliable alright. Those 3 are to cease at the end of October.

I'd imagine BE would pick up the DSA, and the whole reason why EIR have dropped CWL is the whole BE thing.

As for EMA i'm not sure.

RYR already do EMA

Isn't the fleet due to be reduced for winter schedule with the retiring of some of the older birds? With that in mind and the cost of constantly having a wet leased 'flying clown' hanging around (currently OY-RUG) it's understandable to cut the more marginal routes.

Perhaps suggests there isn't any plans to add new 42's to the fleet.

stobarts doing extra rotations ex brs 4 days per week. this starts november 1st

Looking on FR24, it appears that the 2 aircraft owned by Jota have been operating for flights sold on the Flybe website but operated under commercial responsibility of Stobart. If I look on the Flybe website, the same route-date-time flight combinations (but over the next 2 week period) are listed as being operated by Stobart Air, rather than Jota. I remember earlier in the spring the Flybe website made explicit mention of Jota as being the operator of these flights

Has something changed in the relationship between Stobart and Jota to cause this to become a drier lease than the previous wet lease, or is this just the Flybe website giving incorrect info ?

SEN winter schedule shows...

3 new routes from 29 October
SEN-DUB 3x daily (E195)
SEN-GLA 8x weekly (E195)
SEN-MAN 3x daily (ATR72)

3 dropped from 27 October:
SEN-CFR 5x weekly (ATR72)
SEN-CGN 6x weekly (E195/RJ)
SEN-GRQ 8x weekly (ATR72)

Reduced:
SEN-RNS 12x weekly to 7x weekly (ATR72)

Don't forget new routes to MXP, VIE, PRG, BUD, LYS

DJ 6

no its just jota doing it on ACMI until Stobart get the EMB on their licence and enough crews to undertake - no real news = its all just timing

When are those EMB supposed to be inbound?

I've bumped the Stobart Air thread up the page for potential discussion of their possible, if any, interest in acquiring Flybe.

I would say smart move, Stobart have got some interesting players onboard including Warwick Brady who would be more than capable of running a combined airline. Maybe the fresh start and thinking it needs.