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VickersVicount 24th Feb 2014 17:42

Seems the Wingstrike 747 has been "officially" withdrawn from service. One presumes that means its for the chainsaw

HeathrowAirport 25th Feb 2014 18:02

Personally with regards to the A380 I see it as a Niche product, bit like the Concorde was. It was actually rumoured to be that Airbus wanted to stop Concorde AOM support to increase development on the A380.

I guess it's no big loss as 25% of BA's revenue stream was 7 Concorde's.

It does seem that BA will go down the route of operating economical twin engines, from a BA engineering perspective it is more cost effective.

JonnyH 26th Feb 2014 12:49

787 announced to operate on daily service to Chennai from October.

And there's a stricken 744 in HYD, 36 hour delay. Fuel leaking apparently.

Skipness One Echo 26th Feb 2014 12:52


I guess it's no big loss as 25% of BA's revenue stream was 7 Concorde's.
I don't think that's right somehow.....

champair79 26th Feb 2014 19:31

JohhnyH - it's G-BNLN and it's in Bangalore, not HYD ;)


Champ

HeathrowAirport 26th Feb 2014 21:28

Skipness One Echo
 
Skipness One Echo, everyone seems to think it operated at a loss but that was never true. Air France yes, but British Airways operated the fleet 2 life-cycles past the airframes expectancy. She operated flawlessly.

On average Concorde made and operating profit of £30-50 Million a year for British Airways. I believe in the final months April-October this figure was £60 million or more with every seat being full. In 1999 BA earned £140 million in revenues, operating the fleet to unseen levels.

It's hardly unbelievable that Concorde was a major player within the airline. She operated gracefully for 27 years.

Currock Base 26th Feb 2014 22:03

Chennai
 
BA LHR to Chenai has been announced as going daily on the 787 from Oct 14,

Skipness One Echo 26th Feb 2014 22:20


Skipness One Echo, everyone seems to think it operated at a loss but that was never true.
Nooo we don't, and you're mixing up revenue and operating profit.......
It was widely known Concorde became very profitable for BA when Concorde Division was formed, HMG wrote off the debts and they got G-BOAF/G for one shiny British pound each. The fleet had an operating profit but the cost base was climbing as the aircraft aged and with the added complications of the kevlar tanks.

funkyt111 27th Feb 2014 09:52

Hi,

Does anybody know where I can find any reliable information with regards to BA's financial reports. I want to know the companies total revenue for 2013 and their operating profit. This information does not seem to be available on the IAG website and I am unsure of the reliability of other sources of information. Any help would be much appreciated.

BasilBush 27th Feb 2014 10:06

Funkyt111 - try this

IAG - International Airlines Group - Annual Reports

EDIT - 2013 numbers to be announced tomorrow (Friday).

funkyt111 27th Feb 2014 10:13

BasilBush,

Thank you.

4468 28th Feb 2014 09:12

British Airways make €723 million operating profit
 

"British Airways continued its solid revenue performance this year and we're seeing cost improvements, resulting in an operating profit of €762 million.
And voted the UK's number one Superbrand too!:)

TURIN 28th Feb 2014 11:00

Mr Walsh, stirring the pot re Scottish independence & APD too. :D

BBC News

Fairdealfrank 28th Feb 2014 16:16


Mr Walsh, stirring the pot re Scottish independence & APD too.
This is linked to Salmond deliberately blurring issues of constitutional change and party policy in the 600+ page white paper.

What happens if Scotland leaves the UK and Labour win the subsequent general election in a separated Scotland or, more likely, form a coalition with the Libdems and don't reduce or scrap APD......

Would have thought it would be much better for IAG/BA if:
(1) Scotland remains in the UK, and
(2) APD is scrapped/substantially reduced throughout the UK.

JonnyH 28th Feb 2014 16:56

Champair79, haven't a clue why I said HYD, I knew it was BLR! They were waiting for a part to be sent out to repair the plane. Flight subsequently cancelled anyeays.

Good financial results released today.

wallp 28th Feb 2014 17:34

Is thee a chance BA might go for the 747-8 or is it really now all about 2 engines?

rutankrd 28th Feb 2014 18:51


Is thee a chance BA might go for the 747-8 or is it really now all about 2 engines?
Short answer no !

The future choices seem to be A350-1000 and/or 779 for some time next decade.

Questions remain if they will place a follow on order for the 388 .

The timings are however not pressing especially with outstanding orders on the 788/789 A359 and 388 yet to be completed.

Donkey497 28th Feb 2014 19:50

"Would have thought it would be much better for IAG/BA if:
(1) Scotland remains in the UK, and
(2) APD is scrapped/substantially reduced throughout the UK. "


Forgive me for being suspicious, but I am minded to think that if the passionate, but unplanned, do actually win on emotion in September, that this will remove any political need for BA to continue serving "outlying regions" of the UK north of the border which would allow them to reduce services from GLA, ABZ & EDI and reallocate slots at LHR to more lucrative routes. Scotland will become as far as BA are concerned, just another mildly interesting tourist destination on the fringe of Europe.


Overall, I would predict that if this happens, we'll get a service similar to that of Norway and BA will get over a dozen slots per day to re-allocate.

no sponsor 1st Mar 2014 13:54

Not quite. BA has a lot of high value, connecting passengers from the various Scottish airports. BA itself is highly invested in Scotland, with a major engineering operation.

Flying.Penguin 1st Mar 2014 14:11

Would British Airways keep its maintenance facilities at Glasgow after a yes vote? I personally cannot see British Airways performing the maintenance of its short haul fleet in what would be a foreign country.


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