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22 Degree Halo 1st Jan 2013 11:18

Oil leak..

pabely 1st Jan 2013 16:22

Why did Flybe put a E170 on IOM route today, loads that good (then give up for 3 months)?

richlit 1st Jan 2013 17:43

swizz easyjet with prob
 
hi all, a happy new year to you.this is my first post. the swizz easyjet that came in had a engine bearing failure.it took off from geneva I do not know where it was going to.richard

OltonPete 1st Jan 2013 17:58

easy Swiss
 
The replay facility on flightradar24 shows that it left GVA around 12.30 UK time heading for EDI I believe.

At approx 13.30 emergency squawk 7700 was showing near Stansted and descent started from 38000 ft in a holding pattern to the north of STN.

It landed Luton 14.10 approx and closed the airport briefly I understand with easyjet HAM-LTN diverting to Stansted and a Monarch A320 held for about 40 minutes but landed.

EDI departures just showed delayed on the outbound GVA at the time.

The aircraft left Luton today at 13.14 as EZS9002 (empty) but is already back in service on GVA-SCQ.

Pete

euromanxdude 2nd Jan 2013 10:39

E170 was operating scheduled JER-LTN JER with JER based aircraft/ crew.
Regards

pabely 2nd Jan 2013 14:04

Flybe
 
OK, ta, must have been the BE164 rather than the BE162.

Powerjet1 7th Jan 2013 09:18

Looks like the full planning application re expansion is now availablefor viewing on PublicAccess v7.4 @ Luton Borough Council. Ref 12/01400/FUL

ericlday 7th Jan 2013 11:50

Well there is a lot of night time reading in that application, no doubt we will have our comments in due course....happy reading...............

LGS6753 7th Jan 2013 12:52

Press release on Luton Airport website:

Results of Public Consultation and Planning Application at London Luton Airport

Published: 07 January 2013

London Luton Airport Operations Ltd (“LLAOL”) today announces the findings of the public consultation on its Masterplan to develop capacity to 18 million passengers per year.

During the course of the consultation, LLAOL received a total of 1,360 responses from local, national and international businesses, local residents, local chambers of commerce, trade unions, airline partners, holiday makers and business passengers.

A total of 884 respondents (65%) said they supported the Airport’s development proposals. They were in favour because of the economic benefits to the region, employment generation associated with the proposals, private inward investment and improvements to the Airport’s infrastructure. Of the 380 respondents (28%) who said they were not supportive of the Masterplan, the key reasons they gave included the potential impact of increased noise and additional night flights. 94 respondents (7%) said they were undecided.

LLAOL has taken all feedback it received seriously, and used it to improve and amend its planning application by adding two further mitigation measures to the six new noise initiatives it has already proposed. They are:

The introduction of a new quota and aircraft movement limit for night time flights to bring London Luton Airport in line with other, designated UK airports.

A reduction in noise violation limits, and the introduction of a fining system for aircraft breaching these limits, effective from 2014/2015, and not 2018 as was planned.

Glyn Jones, Managing Director of the Airport said: “LLAOL has listened to the local community and has put in place a robust plan to deliver a balanced, sustainable development, which offers a number of significant economic and social benefits, including the creation of approximately 5,100 new jobs, increasing value to the local economy, and improving the built environment of the Airport”.

A full report on the consultation is contained in LLAOL’s Statement of Community Involvement (“SCI”) and is included in the planning application that LLAOL submitted to Luton Borough Council’s Planning Department on 30 November, 2012. The planning application can now be viewed at PublicAccess v7.4 @ Luton Borough Council (Application reference: 12/01400/FUL).

pabely 7th Jan 2013 13:21

Public back London Luton Airport's Masterplan

Powerjet1 7th Jan 2013 13:59

The proposed frontage to the terminal, created by the extension and link between the old and new terminal, whilst continuing the wave theme with glass and cladding, seems much more appealing to the eye. Hopefully ,the improvements inside the building will significantly improve the passenger experience as well.

pabely 7th Jan 2013 16:16

The new quota for nighttime movements will restict some cargo and VVIP traffic, I assume?

LGS6753 7th Jan 2013 16:42

The plans (all 167 of them) are extremely detailed, and can be zoomed-in on to the extent that individual urinals are shown.:8

They give a good idea of how the new terminal will 'work', with a significant increase in inbound baggage belts, security checking channels, and of course retail outlets. The onward travel centre moves outside, and will be adjacent to the link to Pier B.

The number of aircraft stands (excluding FBO parking and cargo) will rise to 50, although this includes the stands currently under construction for Ocean Sky. The stands 16 & 16L may be returned to airline use (as 4 stands), and there will be 6 airline stands on the south apron.

I expect these improvements to proceed as quickly as possible, so work could commence later in 2013.

pabely 7th Jan 2013 18:26

3 phases up to 2028......

BBC News - Luton Airport expansion: 65% back plans in consultation

Nice pichure......

But if things go well expect this expansion much sooner. FBO's more as well??

Dannyboy39 7th Jan 2013 19:03

You're not going to please everybody. Despite all the efforts to mitigate noise, people will still moan and complain every single day.

The planning application should be a formality, but why does it have to take FIFTEEN YEARS to do that?

LTNman 7th Jan 2013 19:29

The work involved is a massive undertaking. I note that the revised bus station has nose in parking. That will be interesting when the flexibuses want to reverse out.

Buster the Bear 7th Jan 2013 20:23

Rumours of apron type floodlighting going into the short term car park. Is this to deter thieves or the first phase of this becoming apron?

LTNman 8th Jan 2013 04:59

No doubt advice from the airport's insurance company as a way to better protect the airport from accident claims if less people fall down the car park's potholes.

Falcon666 10th Jan 2013 10:55

Airlinair
 
Nice to see there's a Airlinair flight in this afternoon.
Presumably it's bringing in Castres rugby team for the Northampton game tomorrow.
As they operate ATRs wonder if anyone from the airport might chat them up about picking up the Waterford route!plenty of airports in France where we could do with a link that they operate from!!!

gilesdavies 14th Jan 2013 15:56

Luton Airport expansion: Consultation 'flawed and misleading'
 
The NIMBY's are screaming out foul play in the latest consultation for the airports expansion...

Surprise! Surprise! (NOT)

BBC News - Luton Airport expansion: Consultation 'flawed and misleading'

Im liking the Artists Impression of how the Terminal will look from the front, if the expansion gets the go-ahead!

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On a separate note, how has the airport been faring with today's snow?! This board has been surprisingly quiet for a Snow Day! :p

ericlday 14th Jan 2013 16:06

Giles - Snoclo for a short period this afternoon, 8 or 9 holding but nowt diverted (I think !)

pabely 14th Jan 2013 19:53

Think things worked Ok, it was forecast and a bit of sightseeing in the East but it was swept then business as usual.

TBSC 14th Jan 2013 20:39

A couple of flights waiting 2 hours for de-icing in light snow and 0 C does not worth mentioning. ;)

pabely 14th Jan 2013 21:31

3 collegues over from Prague today, had a great laugh about how that <10 centimetes of snow causes such concern! :-)

LTNman 14th Jan 2013 21:35

I had a look at the proposed landscaping plan and have come to the conclusion that the grass and tree location shown on the artists impression do not exist on any plans.

LGS6753 15th Jan 2013 17:46

Beware - nutters about!
 
From Travel Mole:


Opponents to Luton airport's 'MasterPlan' extension scheme claim 73% of people actually oppose the plans, contrary to the airport's claims.
Hertfordshire Against Luton Expansion, (HALE) says that the airport included a block of responses from airlines, staff and people associated with the airport to create the 65% in favour statistics, see previous story.
And they say the Government is believing what they call the airport's 'spin'.
Kathryn Hale, said: "A lot of the people in Glyn Jones' statistics who agree to it have links to the airport eg staff and stakeholders.
"In fact, 73% of the independent public oppose the plans. These plans should be called in by government as a Nationally Significantly Infrastructure Project."
These are major infrastructure developments where the ultimate decision is made by a Government Minister.
She added: "There will be nothing to stop foreign airlines using Luton, flying in their own staff to avoid tax etc. But the Government don't care. They believe Luton's spin."
Hale are opposed to the expansion plans due to noise, traffic congestion, pollution and their claim that it will export British jobs overseas.
But Luton airport just reiterated that of the 1,360 responses - 884 (65%) were in favour.
A spokesman said: "All the information is openly available from PublicAccess v7.4 @ Luton Borough Council (Application reference: 12/01400/FUL). Table 3.1, page 6 in the 'Statement of Community Involvement' lays out the consultation response."
The prize for utter nonsense goes to...


There will be nothing to stop foreign airlines using Luton, flying in their own staff to avoid tax etc
Ye Gods!! What are these people smoking?

OltonPete 15th Jan 2013 18:04

December down (just) but year up
 
Source: CAA provisional stats

Luton December pax 639534 down 0.1% - rolling year (2012) 9614423 +1.1%

Pete

Buster the Bear 15th Jan 2013 20:24

Considering the market has been flat, credible figures from Luton. With all the cash the airport is generating for LBC, they must be delighted!

LTNman 15th Jan 2013 21:21

Sign our petition: Luton Airport expansion - News - The Comet

Dannyboy39 16th Jan 2013 06:26

Newspapers in trying to pander to readers shock.

Lee Baker Street 16th Jan 2013 06:45

The figures for the airport are very good for the financial year. In order to beat the best figure of 10,180,734 the airport needs to generate 566,312 passengers extra this year or on average 12 extra flights a day. I hope this can be achieved.

Dannyboy, why the Comet panders to residents of Flamstead is beyond me but hey! I do my bit at least to counter act the likes of LADICAN and HALE.

It is ironic that I live in South Luton where I hear every departure or arrival and even taxying-irrelevant of what runway is in use, yet they hear just some and most certainly not all flights. I wonder if the airport should consider changing the departure route slightly or spread departure routes so that occasionly some departures turn right after take off and not left? I have seen about 12 departures take off over the town centre over the years.

Falcon666 16th Jan 2013 09:39

Looks unlikely the airport will hit 10million again this year.
Unless new routes are announced soon just cant see it happening.
Wizz seem to have peaked for the moment.
Hellas still not bookable and still no news on a Waterford replacement.
Easy had a re jigging to get the two new routes and Ryanair bought back Marrakesh.
El Al's extra flights will help but won't be enough.

As it happens it might be for the best if work starts on the expansion later this summer.

LTNman 17th Jan 2013 05:41

I see a large banner incorporating an artist impression of Signatures new FPO has been attached to their hangar that faces the security gate.

Scrotchidson 17th Jan 2013 08:58


I wonder if the airport should consider changing the departure route slightly or spread departure routes so that occasionly some departures turn right after take off and not left? I have seen about 12 departures take off over the town centre over the years.
Wouldn't happen unfortunately unless the Dunstable Gliding Site closes down. Those 12 you saw were most likely weather avoiding, VFR or Dunstable was closed and a right turn was coordinated with radar before departure

LTNman 17th Jan 2013 17:51

Signature Flight Support London Luton to Construct State of the Art FBO Complex.

The photo can be opened up.

Dannyboy39 18th Jan 2013 19:03

Looked like the vast majority of the time the airport remained open. Well done the LLAOL ops team for keeping the airport running smoothly. Looking over the airfield a couple of times today from my limited vantage point; see a fair bit of lying snow on the unused part of the stands. The lines kept clear. Visibility was also poor.

LTNman 18th Jan 2013 19:52

The snow was quite fine and not sticky and while the event lasted all day it was controllable.

gilesdavies 18th Jan 2013 20:35

Let The War Begin To Retain Airlines and Attract New Carriers...
 
Looks like it has been confirmed that Stansted Airport has been sold to the MAG Group, for the bargain price of £1.5 billion!

The new owners have got a battle on their hands to stop the continuing drop in passenger numbers and attract new airlines...

I have a bad feeling this could come at the expense of LTN, especially if they could offer one of the airports existing airlines a great deal to move there.

Falcon666 18th Jan 2013 21:03

Only time will tell Giles!!
Luton management have known for a while it was coming and should be prepared.Hopefully they have good working relationships with the airlines using the airport.
Guess it depends on MAG and what they want, a pure low cost airport or something similar to Manchester.
I think they will try and attract more legacy carriers and look for long haul options rather than try for example to entice Wizz over.
Of the Airlines at LTN ,Blue Air,El Al both came from STN and have done well enough not to return.
It's a case of Luton matching Stansted in price.If they do the geographical benefits of using Luton are IMHO far better.
Once the expansion goes ahead and the facilities improve there is no reason why Luton shouldn't be a airport of choice!

Anyway MAG has to placate Ryanair first,that won't necessarily be the easiest task!!!

Dannyboy39 19th Jan 2013 08:28

If the expansion of LTN doesn't go ahead (which I believe it will), a group of airlines that may be thinking about joining LTN and a couple of established carriers, may see STN as the way forward?

No real chance of expansion and obviously higher fees at LTN due to supply and demand.

This 75% of people not wanting the expansion - its a case of be careful what you wish for. The airport is the biggest provider of jobs in the area - not allowing LTN to expand will have far reaching consequences.


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