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Giles - Snoclo for a short period this afternoon, 8 or 9 holding but nowt diverted (I think !)

Think things worked Ok, it was forecast and a bit of sightseeing in the East but it was swept then business as usual.

A couple of flights waiting 2 hours for de-icing in light snow and 0 C does not worth mentioning. ;)

3 collegues over from Prague today, had a great laugh about how that <10 centimetes of snow causes such concern! :-)

I had a look at the proposed landscaping plan and have come to the conclusion that the grass and tree location shown on the artists impression do not exist on any plans.

Beware - nutters about!

From Travel Mole:

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Opponents to Luton airport's 'MasterPlan' extension scheme claim 73% of people actually oppose the plans, contrary to the airport's claims.
Hertfordshire Against Luton Expansion, (HALE) says that the airport included a block of responses from airlines, staff and people associated with the airport to create the 65% in favour statistics, see previous story.
And they say the Government is believing what they call the airport's 'spin'.
Kathryn Hale, said: "A lot of the people in Glyn Jones' statistics who agree to it have links to the airport eg staff and stakeholders.
"In fact, 73% of the independent public oppose the plans. These plans should be called in by government as a Nationally Significantly Infrastructure Project."
These are major infrastructure developments where the ultimate decision is made by a Government Minister.
She added: "There will be nothing to stop foreign airlines using Luton, flying in their own staff to avoid tax etc. But the Government don't care. They believe Luton's spin."
Hale are opposed to the expansion plans due to noise, traffic congestion, pollution and their claim that it will export British jobs overseas.
But Luton airport just reiterated that of the 1,360 responses - 884 (65%) were in favour.
A spokesman said: "All the information is openly available from PublicAccess v7.4 @ Luton Borough Council (Application reference: 12/01400/FUL). Table 3.1, page 6 in the 'Statement of Community Involvement' lays out the consultation response."

The prize for utter nonsense goes to...

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There will be nothing to stop foreign airlines using Luton, flying in their own staff to avoid tax etc

Ye Gods!! What are these people smoking?

December down (just) but year up

Source: CAA provisional stats

Luton December pax 639534 down 0.1% - rolling year (2012) 9614423 +1.1%

Pete

Considering the market has been flat, credible figures from Luton. With all the cash the airport is generating for LBC, they must be delighted!

Newspapers in trying to pander to readers shock.

The figures for the airport are very good for the financial year. In order to beat the best figure of 10,180,734 the airport needs to generate 566,312 passengers extra this year or on average 12 extra flights a day. I hope this can be achieved.

Dannyboy, why the Comet panders to residents of Flamstead is beyond me but hey! I do my bit at least to counter act the likes of LADICAN and HALE.

It is ironic that I live in South Luton where I hear every departure or arrival and even taxying-irrelevant of what runway is in use, yet they hear just some and most certainly not all flights. I wonder if the airport should consider changing the departure route slightly or spread departure routes so that occasionly some departures turn right after take off and not left? I have seen about 12 departures take off over the town centre over the years.

Looks unlikely the airport will hit 10million again this year.
Unless new routes are announced soon just cant see it happening.
Wizz seem to have peaked for the moment.
Hellas still not bookable and still no news on a Waterford replacement.
Easy had a re jigging to get the two new routes and Ryanair bought back Marrakesh.
El Al's extra flights will help but won't be enough.

As it happens it might be for the best if work starts on the expansion later this summer.

I see a large banner incorporating an artist impression of Signatures new FPO has been attached to their hangar that faces the security gate.

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I wonder if the airport should consider changing the departure route slightly or spread departure routes so that occasionly some departures turn right after take off and not left? I have seen about 12 departures take off over the town centre over the years.

Wouldn't happen unfortunately unless the Dunstable Gliding Site closes down. Those 12 you saw were most likely weather avoiding, VFR or Dunstable was closed and a right turn was coordinated with radar before departure

Looked like the vast majority of the time the airport remained open. Well done the LLAOL ops team for keeping the airport running smoothly. Looking over the airfield a couple of times today from my limited vantage point; see a fair bit of lying snow on the unused part of the stands. The lines kept clear. Visibility was also poor.

The snow was quite fine and not sticky and while the event lasted all day it was controllable.

Let The War Begin To Retain Airlines and Attract New Carriers...

Looks like it has been confirmed that Stansted Airport has been sold to the MAG Group, for the bargain price of £1.5 billion!

The new owners have got a battle on their hands to stop the continuing drop in passenger numbers and attract new airlines...

I have a bad feeling this could come at the expense of LTN, especially if they could offer one of the airports existing airlines a great deal to move there.

Only time will tell Giles!!
Luton management have known for a while it was coming and should be prepared.Hopefully they have good working relationships with the airlines using the airport.
Guess it depends on MAG and what they want, a pure low cost airport or something similar to Manchester.
I think they will try and attract more legacy carriers and look for long haul options rather than try for example to entice Wizz over.
Of the Airlines at LTN ,Blue Air,El Al both came from STN and have done well enough not to return.
It's a case of Luton matching Stansted in price.If they do the geographical benefits of using Luton are IMHO far better.
Once the expansion goes ahead and the facilities improve there is no reason why Luton shouldn't be a airport of choice!

Anyway MAG has to placate Ryanair first,that won't necessarily be the easiest task!!!

If the expansion of LTN doesn't go ahead (which I believe it will), a group of airlines that may be thinking about joining LTN and a couple of established carriers, may see STN as the way forward?

No real chance of expansion and obviously higher fees at LTN due to supply and demand.

This 75% of people not wanting the expansion - its a case of be careful what you wish for. The airport is the biggest provider of jobs in the area - not allowing LTN to expand will have far reaching consequences.