An extra 220 seats per day. Who's going to fill them. And, to who's cost ?

Wait and see what further announcements come from Flybe's new management in early December! Also, Blue Islands' pricing policy is more transparent and much more user-friendly that the BE convolutions/rules and regulations.

were is the ATR72 coming from !! ex !!

I'm not favouring either operator; my point being that there is simply not the demand for 450+ seats per day between EGJB & EGHI.
Someone is going to get badly burned !

c/n 529 - a/c heading to Billund first....

You missed my point which was rather vague I admit........wait and see what BE has to say when the new management makes public its strategy in early December.

OK. Will wait with baited breath !

Flybe's plan is currently due to be announced along side their results, which I think is something like the 11th November

G-ISLI
 

MSN 529. Ex American Eagle

Rumour of another ATR in March.
J32's therefore to be retired.
Would GCI-LCY work and would it be able to sustain adequate traffic numbers?

G-ISLI Delivered Yesterday :)

I wonder if Blue would look at SOU-LBA a route being dropped by BE, seems logical to me to try and increase their presence at SOU.

Could Blue Islands be a potential future operator of the now axed Flybe services from Luton?

If they fancy ferrying 12/13 people to and from Luton in the height of summer. But then again they may price it more sensibly than Flybe.

Was that a typical load factor on Flybe?


The route has done well previously so perhaps pricing was the issue in which case Blue Islands could perhaps make it work

Why should they cannibalize the LCY service? In fact, any seasonal summer service to London that is axed could potentially shift passengers to the LCY service. As that service probably sees less demand during the summer than at other times of the year, it appears to be more sensible to make some cheaper tickets available on those flights than run a dedicated LTN service that leaves both services with half empty planes. It is not as if JER passengers could go for a LHR service instead of LTN anymore....

I think they could really up their game now, but depends what's viable. I mentioned in the Cardiff thread that they could do well serving the CWL CDG route in a W pattern from JER. That could work i think. Not really many regional operators left.

To me the problem is that BE was not able to operate the Q400 profitably despite the fact that a Q400 can break even with less than 50 per cent load. (at least that is what was always said about the great economics of the Q400). How could SI expect to operate an ATR42 profitably given that the trip costs are not much different from the Q400 and the typical SI fare is much higher, meaning that they will only be able the non-price sensitive part of the market and the higher fares are waterred down by less passengers?

Eastern are takin it on

Eastern is taking it on - this was referring to Jerbourg's suggestion that BCI would maybe like to do LBA SOU!

UK Internals
 

Isn't there a problem with the likes of Blue Island, Aurigny operating UK internal services as they do not hold an EU Operating Licence only a CAA Air Transport Licence?

From CAA website

Air Transport Licences

Air Transport Licences are similar both in their scope and their effect to Route Licences, but are granted to air carriers that are either registered or based in the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man, both of which are outside the EEA. These companies are unable to hold Operating Licences and are therefore also excluded from holding Route Licences, which may only be granted to holders of Operating Licences. Air carriers in the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, which operate UK registered aircraft, are therefore required to hold Air Transport Licences.

1. Air operators which are registered or have their principal place of business in the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man, both of which are outside the EEA, are not eligible under the Council Licensing Regulation to hold Operating Licences and do not benefit from the general access to intra-EEA routes conferred by the Licensing Regulation.

Air Transport Licences | Airline Licensing | Operations and Safety

Blue Islands operated summer ATR42 charter services to Glasgow last year, anyone know if they are doing the same this year?

Blue Islands BRS
 

Seems Blue Island have let the cat out of the bag with regard their next aircraft they will receive.
With a 30 minute turnaround scheduled on the freshly announced Saturday service it would seem they are heading in the direction of ATR72, let's hope it's another 72-500.
Good luck to them!

I hear that CITS has asked them to repeat the entire charter programme and also add OXF JER to the mix.....

Blue Islands BRS
 

Which Saturday service is this then?

Does anyone understand why blue islands haven't jumped at a GCI -LCY service after the flybe LGW debacle. Could also now add LTN into the mix.

BRS
 

Gampy check the BCI website, Saturday lunchtime service to BRS

Any news on the SI/GR inter island front?

Rumour has it that SI are getting in a second ATR 72-500 to be based at EGJJ, would it be a wise assumption to say that this will operate on the Jersey-Southampton just like the Guernsey based ATR?

With Flybe closing its base in Jersey there will be no early morning departure to Southampton or a late evening return to Jersey so I would say your assumption is correct.

Guernsey-Jersey air route 'codeshare' deal takes off as airlines granted permission


AURIGNY and Blue Islands have been granted permission to codeshare on the Guernsey-Jersey route after the airlines applied for an exemption under the islands’ competition laws.

Having taken into account responses to a consultation on the issue, the Channel Islands Competition and Regulatory Authorities has granted the exemption providing certain conditions are observed by the airlines.
Under the codeshare agreement, which will run initially for two years, Aurigny will take a fixed block of seats on flights operated by Blue Islands between Guernsey and Jersey using the 46-seat ATR42 aircraft, with ground support at the airports in both islands for those flights provided by Aurigny.
Aurigny will pay Blue Islands a fixed charge for the seats.
Cicra chief executive Andrew Riseley said the authority had ultimately concluded that the interests of customers would be best-served by allowing the airlines to codeshare.

Is Blue Islands using their 'new' ATR72 yet? I thought it was due to start ops in December but I have not seen any online photos or vids of it yet. A couple of youtube videos say -72 when actually its the -42s featured.

Did Blue Islands decide against the larger aircraft or is it in operation on their network?

ATR 72
 

It entered service almost immediately, and is used on the GCI-SOU route everyday... think there's a few photos on flickr.

"Blue Islands operated summer ATR42 charter services to Glasgow last year, anyone know if they are doing the same this year?"
Been canned. Wasn't bookable after last summer. Quite a long stretch for BI. Surprised its didn't do well as was reported to have reasonable loads.
Would be perfect for a Aurigney leased Emb !

Could Blue Islands take on the LTN-JER route? Luton needs a new operator & I wondered if Blue Islands might be tempted, particularly at weekends when their London City service only has a single Sunday service.

I see Dundee airport is looking for an airline to operate services from Dundee to London, maybe blue islands could be interested ?????

Heard nothing solid either way (to dispel rumour) but SI has operated Dundee - Jersey before as a weekly seasonal charter for CI Travel in 2012 and 2013.

Blue Islands ATR 42 G-ISLF taking off from Dundee | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

As an operator from the Channel Islands (UK Crown Dependency rather than UK if I recall correctly, but happy to be corrected), does Blue Islands have the right to operate UK-domestic services?

Jersey European were a Channel Island registered company & used to fly UK domestic services if that helps..


I doubt Blue would be interested in UK internal flights as they seem only to be focused on the CI - mostly Jersey services.