BRS-HAM is pretty much Airbus as well. But BRS-TLS and BRS-CEG remain private flights (I assume they're still running?). I guess they're just full enough all the time not to be worth opening up?
Another good BM experience yesterday, operating the morning BRS-BRU for SN. Punctual enough (despite the ground crew at BRU being late for push back). Bizarrely though, we parked up on the apron in front of the terminal, and were brought to passport check desks in a part of the terminal I've never been through before (through the doors that I think used to be Republic of Ireland?) 4 passport desks, no machines? |
Originally Posted by Bristol_Traveller
(Post 9810541)
BRS-HAM is pretty much Airbus as well. But BRS-TLS and BRS-CEG remain private flights (I assume they're still running?). I guess they're just full enough all the time not to be worth opening up?
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I'm using Fast Track Security (either through status or pre-booking) pretty much all the time now. It seems largely deserted most of the time, so that works for me (along with the Aspire lounge when it's quiet) as a quasi-dedicated departure lounge!
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I see we're back to the regional-jet lottery for the Derry services. Lost track of what operated over the weekend, one CRJ2 and a couple of French E145s I think.
Looking at FR24, previously-based E145 G-CKAF is now doing European routes out of Birmingham. |
A DOT LT ATR 42-300 (Lithuanian registered) operated BRS-CDG-BRS yesterday. FR24 shows it has been operating for Loganair (same owner as bmir) on the soon to cease Flybe franchise on Highlands and Islands routes for the past week at least. It flew to BRS from EDI yesterday lunchtime to operate the CDG from BRS.
A FRA and a MUC rotation have been cancelled at BRS in recent days. |
May CAA stats are in as despite the messy start, LDY-STN load factor was about 80%. Surely one of the best LFs within the BMIR route network?
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Originally Posted by cuthere
(Post 9819728)
May CAA stats are in as despite the messy start, LDY-STN load factor was about 80%. Surely one of the best LFs within the BMIR route network?
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Yes. Yes it has. Thank you.
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LDY
Yes but what is the all important yield? Judging by the fact it's a PSO route it obviously isn't great.
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I think in this case the lack of a non PSO was down to what economists call market failure
There wasn't quite enough demand to support a twice daily A319 / B737, meaning one has to look at something under about 80 seats. London City is too expensive to support a route at peak times, and Gatwick's pricing structure for anything less than 150 seats. Heathrow slots were out of the question That leaves very few viable options for a route - the only non PSO option I can think of is Southend with Stobart. Stobart would have known this and may have decided that after Waterford they would also want some PSO cash to get involved compared to trying to open more mainstream European routes This is the kind of route that PSO is designed for - connecting outlying, remote regions (or those with relatively poor transport links) to major economic centres and transport hubs. |
DJ6
Have to disagree with your statement 'This is the kind of route that PSO is designed for...' for the following reasons; 1. City is less than 90 minutes by road from BFS. 2. PSO normally stipulates red eye timings to a major hub for connectivity to international markets. STN does not meet that requirement. Additionally there is usually a requirement for an element of codeshare. 3. The market was there for a single daily 738, but not a double daily. Your reference to Stobart's experience of WATLTN and GWYLTN is also incorrect in my view. These were both highly profitable routes for RE before the airline was acquired by Stobart post examinership. However, when Stobart transferred from LTN to SEN the sector length was 20 minutes longer, the ethnic Irish north London market evaporated and the regular day return passenger rejected SEN as a viable LON option due to rail station not being completed in time. |
Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer
(Post 9819566)
A FRA and a MUC rotation have been cancelled at BRS in recent days.
Thursday morning's BRS-FRA-BRS rotation is now cancelled for the rest of summer. Why pick just one morning of the week? It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to use it as a feeder/business route to find it won't work on one day of the week. |
The DOT LT ATR 42-300 that turned up at BRS on Sunday seems to be still there and operates the CDG rotations each day yet, according to posts elsewhere in this forum, a bmir E145 is operating from Inverness for Loganair.
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Well they added 2 145s from Hop but one is predomantly on that random PSO route and the other is operating for Loganair. You would have thought they would have used them to stabilise their existing established routes.
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Derry route has stabilised this week on a Slovenian-reg E145, S5-ACJ.
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You would have thought they would have used them to stabilise their existing established routes. |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 9821493)
That assumes the issues are caused by a/c shortages, For example, do they have the crews?
https://www.flybmi.com/about/careers |
Looking at some of the recent delayed flights, where aircraft seem to have been in the right position at the right time, other explanations would be ATC complications, tech problems, ground handling complications, or unavailable / out of hours crews.
Correlating delayed flights against factors that would have affected other airlines seems to rule out ATC delays in some cases, which would leave ground handling issues unique to the BM fleet, tech problems, or crew availability problems. So my hunch is, crewing is a contributory factor to the recent problems, and I hope they fix that before approaching any route expansion (for which they also don't seem to have sufficient frames). |
Wednesday/Thursday saw BMR9001 operating from Bristol to Newquay and back with a lot of circuits down in Cornwall in between.
Forget Wednesday's aircraft, Thursday's was G-CKAG which arrived from Aberdeen on Tuesday evening. Possibly suggests type training for new pilots? LY-ARI continues operating from Bristol. S5-ACJ replaced by F-HRGD on the Derry schedules. Cheers, MH. |
SOU-MUC
The above diverted to BRS this evening even though others waited in the hold for the weather to clear up. To add insult to injury the aircraft operating has taken off from BRS and flown straight past SOU presumably empty and on route back to MUC. Anyone know why it didn't hold like the others? Also why did it not fly back to SOU to at least operate the return leg? Surely its not just to keep the customers happy but also to save the refunds/compo?
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Originally Posted by Rivet Joint
(Post 9835008)
The above diverted to BRS this evening even though others waited in the hold for the weather to clear up. To add insult to injury the aircraft operating has taken off from BRS and flown straight past SOU presumably empty and on route back to MUC. Anyone know why it didn't hold like the others? Also why did it not fly back to SOU to at least operate the return leg? Surely its not just to keep the customers happy but also to save the refunds/compo?
That said there can be operational reasons not obvious to the passenger and/or spotter, had that flight today routed BRS/SOU/MUC then the additional sector would have reduced the crew's allowable duty time by 45 minutes whilst delaying subsequent flights of the day by perhaps a further hour, did the crew's duty day have 1 hour 45 minutes, on top of the delay already incurred by diverting to BRS, to play with and what would the later implications of any night curfews or similar have been? And perhaps they diverted to BRS because of a crew duty hours problem and/or they weren't carrying enough fuel to continue holding indefinitely. |
bmi regional will fly from Saarbrücken to Munich 11x weekly starting with the winter schedule. Obviously they get marketing support of 1,500,000 € of the state government of Saarland.
https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/...en_aid-2470983 |
Harry Wayfarers: As far as I know it does not operate a rotation after arriving back at MUC. Your point about the crew duty time is a good one and might be the answer. Thanks for the insight.
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The morning SOU-MUC flight dissapered from the arrivals board this morning. Not operating again? Expected better from a more business focused airline like BMI. Seems to be a handful of flights cancelled every week.
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RJ, it's an airport cock-up. Morning flight disappears from 24Jul and reappears on 4Sep
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Likely to do with peak summer holidays meaning less demand for business travel over the period.
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That makes sense now! Thanks for the replies.
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There is currently no Thursday early morning BRS-FRA-BRS rotation, which really is a bit of a loss if you're trying to get out to Europe or the USA. It appears to be because the Wednesday BRS-MXP-BRS rotation now overnights and MXP-BRS is on Thursday morning.
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bmi regional and Loganair are going to collaborate on providing MME-NWI-ABZ connectivity.
Loganair will operate MME-NWI feeding passengers into NWI-ABZ. Unless Loganair is going to start operating NWI-ABZ as well? Loganair will revive north-east flight from Norwich Airport in move to appeal to energy industry - Latest Norfolk and Suffolk Business News - Eastern Daily Press |
Loganair will be basing a Saab 340 at MME operating to ABZ and NWI, so the NWI-ABZ link will be via MME. No direct bmiR involvement, although codeshare opportunities ex ABZ
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Originally Posted by Bristol_Traveller
(Post 9854779)
There is currently no Thursday early morning BRS-FRA-BRS rotation, which really is a bit of a loss if you're trying to get out to Europe or the USA. It appears to be because the Wednesday BRS-MXP-BRS rotation now overnights and MXP-BRS is on Thursday morning.
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BMI Regional Director Ian Woodle on BBC Foyle talking about the LDY-STN service and how they are happy with how its going. Reporting a 80% LF.
Unfortunately must of the interview was taking up by price. |
80% load factors would suggest pax are happy with prices :ok:
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New route for bmi regional starting end of October:
bmi regional will fly from Rostock-Laage (RLG) to Stuttgart (STR) 6x per week (excl. Saturday). After the new route Saarbrücken (SCN) to Munich (MUC) which starts also in October with 11x flights per week, already the second announcement of domestic flights in Germany. https://www.svz.de/lokales/guestrowe...d17564801.html |
Although their old route map was a mess, it's a shame you can't really work out what direct routes they fly using the new one. This is a particular shame for an airline like BMI that operates a network of niche routes that seem to change on a weekly basis!
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Drama queen much 01475? Over the past 18 months they've added BHX-GOT/GRZ/NUE, MUC-SCN, NCL-SVG, LDYSTN and now RLG-STR. MUC-RTM/BRN have gone. Hardly "changing on a weekly basis" :rolleyes:
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Apparently another German domestic route in the works in addition to MUC-SCN/RLG.
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Ldy
Anyone heard of any new routes from LDY
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Originally Posted by virginblue
(Post 9861933)
Apparently another German domestic route in the works in addition to MUC-SCN/RLG.
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LDY
BM9821 BRS-LDY GRJXA, 15 Aug 17. Looks like BM equipment is back on the LDY service from tomorrow.
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