Slightly off topic, there are charter flights LGW/YVR with Canadian Affair ( Air Transat) but to enjoy any degree of comfort, you have to go to LHR where you have BA,VS or AC. I refuse to fly economy on long haul flights. Transat do have a Club product but I do not rate it as much better than BA economy except for an extra 2" legroom.

As to linking over Europe, it all depends where you are going. I would not fly NQY/FRA/YVR but would almost certainly fly NQY/FRA/anywhere East, there is something wrong with flying in the opposite direction for two hours before you start your journey. In the case of LHR/LGW there is no option.

If BA want to try a NQY link again then LHR is a better bet than going head to head with Flybe on LGW. As to the viability I do not have the numbers and doubt in reality anyone else here does either!

A few years off but announced today a new direct rail link between the West Coast line and Heathrow, will cut 45 minutes off the journey time which is quite significant. On the basis most people have to get to Newquay first, plus check in times this would surely have an adverse effect on the potential for any flights to LHR.

I dare say those close to the location will know all about this:
BBC News - Newquay test set for Bloodhound land speed rocket

Just hope it doesn't do a Hammond. That could b*gger up the flight schedules a bit. Still I hope the airport will be paid handsomely for its use.

What flights ? :ugh:


On a serious note, any rumors or suggestions for next year at NQY ?


cs

I guess what NQY gets next year will very much depend on the performance of the routes this year.

No doubt Lufty will be back as, judging by my visits, Germans seem to love Cornwall.

Flybe's services from the regions seem very tentative, even during the peak season, so will be interesting to see if the likes of NCL, NWI, BHD return next year. Maybe we will see an EMA service (to replace the one from WW that stopped prematurely in June this year), considering that BE will have a base there by S13?

As for the routes to more significant hubs, it's a real pity that all NQY gets for the Winter is LGW and MAN (with the latter only 4 a week, I think). Couldn't either EDI or GLA be made to work year round on a Logie Saab?

with no WW on the MAN route its seeing a 30% drop in numbers during the summer, for instance July had 3720 use the route compared with last year in July 5300.

Again due to schedule reduction EDi has dropped to 1834 down from 2805 which is -35% on last July.

NCL i think will be back for 2013 as this weekly route had 544 punters in July which is good considering its only a saturday route.

Hopefully all the routes will be back for 2013, equally i think that LBA, EMA, DUB and ORK is missing compared to last year.

Again however i agree with you about EDI and GLA, im farily certain that that the route would work year round on the Loganair S340 but hey ho!

cs

Well looking at the flybe summer 13 schedules, LGW is unchanged, MAN is up to daily.

However nothing is loaded for EDI, GLA, NCL, BHD, NWI


2013 could well be an awful year if nothing new is announced.


cs

CS,

BE have only loaded core summer activity across overall network. Seasonal activity to be loaded by November

All summer 2013 flights now on sale according to the BE email yesterday !!


cs

Yes, I got that email aswell, but if you read the detail it says only flights up to 14th July are loaded. Looking at BE's timetable that is indeed the case, even for core routes like LGW-JER and SOU-AGP.

I think Rubber Duck is right and this reflects what BE normally do with a lot of the very seasonal flights.

I can't think that routes like GLA won't return next year - in the case of this one I think it will be released later anyway, in line with other routes operated by Loganair (nothing yet released at all for S13 for their franchise ops as yet).

A slight update:

Some GLA flights now loaded for next year, 2 weekly starting from 27th May, going up to 3 weekly in early July.

Seeing that BE have now supposedly loaded their S13 schedule up to early Sept, this looks a bit bleak for NQY.

On an unrelated subject, todays NQY arrivals is showing BA4505 inbound from LCY at 1200. Training perhaps?

Wycombe, it's a charter I believe from LCY. Something to do with Janes Bond event at Eden

Should make some nice piccys for anyone at NQY today, first visit of a BA E-Jet ?

On a related note, I'm very surprised that EDI is gone from the BE schedules, that route has been going years and consistently carrying over 10000 per year


cs

Looks like it's going to be very quiet at NQY next Summer, at least airline-ops wise :uhoh:

Is it really only going to be Flybe from LGW and MAN (albeit daily by then) and Logie operating as Flybe from GLA (with less flights than this year)?

Will Lufty DUS make a re-appearance?

Will the changes announced by Skybus (re. cessation of longer routes to the likes of SOU and BRS) mean we see more of them at NQY?

It all seems a bit grim.

Just remind me again, was it ten million spent on the great master plan.....still never mind all those passengers paying the fiver development fee in 2013 should get a couple of grand back

its hard to believe that the LH DUS route wont be back for the 2013 season, it went from weekly in 2011 to twice weekly in 2012, so then to drop it would seem a strange decision. I know that LH are re-organising European ops but even so ?

When do the seasonal BE routes get released ? again its hard to think that after having several weekly routes last year NQY will have nothing this year !

And whats happened to EDI ? that route has always previously carried in excess of 10000 passengers off the top of my head, seems a strange one to drop ?


cs

Amadeus still shows a once weekly DUS-NQY on a CR9

Thanks for that LGWAlan

Dont suppose you can post the dates its loaded ? its still not bookable via the LH website so im still not 100% convinced as it stands, but to be honest i can see no reason to drop the root as the loads seemed the best year so far.

I obviously know that loads dont = yield but even still !


cs

Amadeus showing 25May through to 7Sep as LH3458/9 DUSNQYDUS 1200-1240/1335-1615

thanks for that ;)


cs

I see that BE have loaded the weekly BHD, NCL and NWI for NQY but no EDI nex year ?

I'm also surprised that BE have not picked up the EMA route ?



cs

The return of these domestic destinations is obviously welcome but you have to wonder about a once a week service to NQY, surely two or three weekly would allow shorter breaks and more flexibility to the traveling public ?

EMA, LBA and DUB are the routes that I'm surprised have not reappeared following the demise of SZ.

cs

notice that BE8271 is expected to arrive at Newquay ex Manston today. Whats this all about ?


cs

Truro City v Dover Athletic tonight. Dover to Truro by road would be some slog!

Thankyou sir


cs

Good job they weren't playing in Dover then......:(

At last some good news

Looks like my guess was right, EZY are in the process of loading SEN-NQY for summer 13 as I predicted, however I'm shocked to see LPL also loaded. Both seem to be 3 weekly


cs

Looks like an EZY foray then into Flybe territory on the LGW (London area) and MAN services to NQY.

I think the London area service would have been better out of STN or LTN than SEN.

I wonder if EZY might also be likely to fill the EDI gap that seems to have been left by Flybe also?

Well, according to their websites it's actually five minutes quicker to fly from NQY to SEN by EZY than to fly from NQY to LGW with flybe. Add in the swift passage through the terminal at SEN and on to the train and the SEN service should save quite a bit of time. LTN or STN would give access to more connenctions of course, but I guess you can get those via LGW so SEN can provide a jet link to London for the good folk of Cornwall - and provide a rapid link to those splendid surfing beaches for the good folk of Essex and East London. Fares look comparable too......

Either way it should be a welcome boost to passenger numbers for NQY, and I also wonder of EZY will be the ones to step in on the vacant EDI route considering the fairly large amount of based aircraft they have at EDI.


cs

Well previously BA operated daily on a 735 to LGW along with 4 DH8-300 by SZ and 3 Q400 from BE along with the twice daily 738 to STN from Ryanair.

It say demand is present tbh.


cs

Ryanair pulled the 3 NQY routes due to the development fee at NQY, SZ were closed down by eastern

cs

Pax numbers halved with the demise of SZ which meant the loss of a variety of destinations.
BE really went for the LGW route, but once SZ disappeared, frequency was slashed and prices rocketed, and no other routes out of NQY are particularly well served in terms of frequency or price.
If BE bale out now, it would be a pity for the airport, but would it make that much difference in terms of total numbers?
Having written off all that cash establishing themselves on the LGW route and killing off the local airline, it would be ironic if BE abandoned NQY just because a bigger and richer competitor showed some interest.

um

I don't really think that's true about the frequency being slashed. I've operated the route for the last 3 years and it has always been 3 x daily apart from in the winter where some are slashed if the numbers aren't there; but then that's always been the case.

Speaking of Leeds, did Jet2 try Newquay a few summers back, from Leeds? Or was it Belfast? Or was it both? My memory cells are fading!

Jet2 tried Leeds and Belfast.

only lasted one season i think, but considering Air Southwest were on LBA with multiple flights per day its no surprise it failed.

Now NQY doesnt get a LBA flight, shame that JET2 dont give it another go really.

Mind you, LS could easily fill the gap on EDI, EMA & LBA which are now all unserved


cs

Cornishsimon - The demand you are talking about was in different economic times. The SZ 3/4 times dail;y was based on a bussiness model of picking passengers up at Plymouth and Newquay and in reality is all the route warrants.
BE will pull the plug and run when it gets tough and Newquay airport might have wished it had not jumped into bed with them so quicly and sh*t on SZ .

Agreed with the comments about NQY and SZ.

Anything else new on the horizon ? Other than the EZY LPL and SEN ?

Still missing EDI for 2013 compared to 2012

Any sign of DUB, EMA, LBA etc ?


cs