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jabird 7th Dec 2011 02:57

Brighton City Airways
 
New start up claims it is just awaiting clearance from BSH to start a new route to Paris Pontoise (POX). Previously used by the likes of Debonair, POX (not the best IATA code I admit) might not have the surface connections of ORY or CDG, but it sure beats BVA.

Claim is a faster journey than Eurostar, and makes big deal about lack of LGW route. This has been discussed on the LGW forum.

Fares from £59, doesn't say whether o/w or return, I would assume just o/w. Implication is small turboprop, no details on type or start date.

Hopefully more than just another paper airline, but still lots of reasons why theye face a tough challenge with such a large rival just up the road / rails.

Phileas Fogg 7th Dec 2011 05:07

jabird,

It's had it's own thread on here before ... as I recall the website is registered to a domestic address in Haywards Heath and a hotmail email address, apparently been waiting years for Brighton Council to cough up some much demanded cash ..... pigs might .....

jabird 7th Dec 2011 05:17

I always try and find a thread before starting a new one, yes that doesn't surprise me, not sure if there is a general thread for BSH either, as I said, very difficult when you have such a large airport just up the road.

Yes, the 10 minute check in sounds appealing, yes there is a catchment on the south coast, but actually making such routes work is a very different kettle of fish.

Actually, come to think of it, I seem to remember the thread going along exactly the lines as above.

Mods, pprune is a great site, but why is the search facility so cr%p :mad:?

Cyrano 7th Dec 2011 05:53

Here's the previous thread. Does "awaiting clearance from" translate to "trying to extract funding support from"? It's not as though the airfield is slot-constrained...

jabird 7th Dec 2011 06:12

Cyrano - thanks, and DOH, I even commented on said thread. Coffee time methinks! Yawn!

Mr Angry from Purley 7th Dec 2011 19:55

Is the call sign for the Airline called Seeweed?
Only joking
Up The Palace

learjet50 7th Dec 2011 22:36

OH MY GOD
 
Its that time of the year some young lad has been promised a J31 or similar for Christmas it wont cost much to run or set up a schedule airline

We tried Oxford and a few other places How about Shoreham

It on the South Cost prices similar to Oxford so why not

We can always lease a J 31 and not pay them for it con the CAA we are a good all round egg and get the licence

Have I heard Ducks FXXT Before


I Think so


Merry Christmas to all who have there heads in the clouds

:confused::confused:

Aero Mad 8th Dec 2011 06:21

learjet50, if you think this has anything to do with Varsity/associated characters I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree old fruit. And, given that a Jetstream 31 would need a good deal more runway that Shoreham can provide, I think they really would have their heads in the clouds if that was their chosen equipment. Looking at the website and talking to the man behind the idea (who is currently at Flying Time Aviation), he seems a lot more sensible than you would make out.

jamestkirk 8th Dec 2011 09:59

I give it three months....Max

Phileas Fogg 8th Dec 2011 10:56

I said similar in the previous thread, and I'll say similar in this thread, if LGW is lacking a PAR route then start a LGW/PAR/LGW route and don't come up with half-cocked ideas of operating from/to a south coast airfield with restricted facilities, no ILS etc, to/from some airfield that isn't actually a Paris airport.

learjet50 8th Dec 2011 22:37

JamesTKirk
 
3 Months a bit generous arent you ??

Never Never even start flying I Thing Aero Mad maybe has shares in them if he does SELL SELL:hmm::hmm::hmm:

jamestkirk 10th Dec 2011 11:39

Lear
 
Just trying to be optimistic:rolleyes:

But your right. 2 months, max

putneyuk 29th Nov 2012 07:48

Launch Spring 2013
 
On our local BBC News this morning, flights start twice daily in the Spring with a 19 seater aircraft. Did a quick search online their website didnt appear to be working, but some graphics of a Let410 in their colour scheme. If it starts cant see it lasting.

fjencl 29th Nov 2012 08:52

Brighton to Paris air service launch (From The Argus)

Phileas Fogg 29th Nov 2012 09:03

Since when has Pontoise been in Paris and I can just imagine a full load of 19 punters arriving at the check-in desk at STD -15 and all being processed in time for an on time departure!

virginblue 29th Nov 2012 10:40

Flights will be operated by Vanair, which is, IIRC, part-owned by the Manx2 owner. Any link up here?

Aero Mad 29th Nov 2012 10:48


Since when has Pontoise been in Paris and I can just imagine a full load of 19 punters arriving at the check-in desk at STD -15 and all being processed in time for an on time departure!
In fairness, Phileas, if you'd ever flown scheduled out of Shoreham then you'd know that's quite possible. When I used to fly ESH-ACI regularly it was quite possible to get everyone processed and off in time for the flight even if they did all turn up at the last minute.

Phileas Fogg 29th Nov 2012 11:04

Aero Mad,

Security, just for starters, might have changed since your ESH-ACI days ... Checking in baggage, security questions, then emptying pockets and/or being frisked thru security, taking laptops from bags, "what's that bottle of water and/or that sharp object doing in your bag maam?, then going for a p1ss or indeed a No.2, then walking out to the aircraft, then starting engines whilst safety briefing ... Yep, all perfectly reasonable within 15 minutes!

And Pontoise ain't anywhere nearer to Paris since I last posted :)

Aero Mad 29th Nov 2012 13:43

Phileas

Agree with you about Pontoise, although I last flew ESH-ACI in February 2008 and although there was security (X-ray machine etc.) there is no legal/CAA obligation for it on aircraft with 19 seats or fewer.

Phileas Fogg 29th Nov 2012 14:07

And there's no legal requirement, they don't have one, for an x-ray machine at my local airstrip either ... machines make it quicker, without machines add a further few minutes!


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