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HOODED 24th Aug 2013 21:42

I doubt it, as far as I am aware LBA has 752 and 733s if there is a based -800 it will be only one, the rest are at MAN, EMA and GLA.:uhoh:

LBIA 24th Aug 2013 22:04

LBA currently has 1x based Boeing 737-800 scheduled this summer and over the winter period. As the scheduled stands this will increase to 2x next summer season replacing one of the 9x based Boeing 737-300's

Is EMA A jet2 738 base, seen as it a leased travel service aircraft and not one of there own aircraft?

Artie Fufkin 25th Aug 2013 12:10

LBIA,

The Travel Service wet leased NG is in ACE for the winter but it returns to the UK next summer, leaving no Jet2 presence in ACE. As such, I'm not sure ACE can be described as "the next non UK Jet2 base".

Pedantry and semantics maybe but I understand ALC and ACE are very different beasts.

righthandrule 25th Aug 2013 14:27

The logic behind the ACE base was purely down to aircraft performance. Even with the high MTOW 737-300's based at BLK & BFS, on days where headwinds are strong or the aircraft had a particularly heavy payload they wre tech stopping in FAO.

So to eliminate this either 737-800's had to be based at BLK & BFS or better still put one in ACE and boost capacity on other ACE-UK routes a la MAN & GLA.

With regards to the 'tech' issue - there are various standby aircraft in the UK, so worst case scenario it's gonna be a 4-5 hour delay whilst it is scrambled down there. No different to any single aircraft bases any other airline has.

IrishFlyer2013 25th Aug 2013 14:44


So they've pulled NCL next summer from ALC. Of course, they'll still have flights but I'm surprised they've pulled it in favour of some extra routes to EDI & BFS.

Also, with just one aircraft being based at ACE, and flights everyday, how are they going to manage if the 737 goes tech? They're gonna be a long, long way from home if anything happens at ACE. Perhaps a regular swap at LBA?
NCL-ALC has not been pulled for next summer. Jet 2 are operating 10 weekly flights from NCL next year using an NCL based aircraft. Check the Jet2 website.

That is the schedule for the ALC based aircraft.

JonnyH 25th Aug 2013 16:55

:ugh:

If you read my post properly you will see that I say "I see they have pulled flights FROM ALC to NCL next summer" and "Of course they will still have flights". That was in reference to there still being flights with a NCL based aircraft to ALC.

The flight that has been dropped, and that I was talking about, was the ALC based aircraft that flys into NCL at 09:35 once or twice a week. That has been dropped next year.

Ringwayman 25th Aug 2013 17:43

if they've made the 10th weekly service into one operated by based NCL aircraft instead, perhaps there's been an "adjustment" on another route. Or there's going to be another aircraft to be based.

IrishFlyer2013 25th Aug 2013 18:35


If you read my post properly you will see that I say "I see they have pulled flights FROM ALC to NCL next summer" and "Of course they will still have flights". That was in reference to there still being flights with a NCL based aircraft to ALC.

The flight that has been dropped, and that I was talking about, was the ALC based aircraft that flys into NCL at 09:35 once or twice a week. That has been dropped next year.
Apologies, I should have read your post properly.

doublesix 25th Aug 2013 20:33

JET 2
 
Flew MAN to Dalaman on 8/8/13. Dedicated check in at T1 Manchester, bags checked in and gone within 10 mins. Flew Dalaman to MAN on 23/8/13. Again dedicated check in at Dalaman, bags checked in and gone in less than 10 mins. No hassle, no stress. Excellent customer service. Know who I'll be flying with next year:ok:

GnRdL 26th Aug 2013 07:48


Originally Posted by LBIA
Meanwhile The 2x Alicante based Boeing 737-300 will operate the following flights next summer 2014 according to the jet2.com website schedule. In the afternoon both aircraft will act as back up, as has already pointed out earlier to primarily avoid EU directive compensation if one goes tech.

The question is if Jet2 plans to operate something else with one of the two planes in the evenings.

4567 27th Aug 2013 12:15

Am i right in thinking GLA is to become a fully 738 base next year with 5 based units? Will this be the only base to have one standard of a/c based?

If so then it seems Jet2 are really stepping up the upgrade of the fleet to NG'S.

AP1995 27th Aug 2013 16:49

BLK, BFS & EDI are all the same standard aircraft of B737-300 bases

silverstreak 28th Aug 2013 17:17

EDI is strictly a B737-300QC base. On occassion they do have 'regular' -300s rotating through to cover for the QCs

757 Speedbrakes 28th Aug 2013 19:47


Will this be the only base to have one standard of a/c based?
EMA used to be B757 only. 1 in 2010 and 2 in 2011. The only Jet2 base that didn't have a 737. Sadly no more. :{

ScotsSLF 2nd Sep 2013 20:50

GLA delays?
 
Is there something going on in Turkey?

01:40 LS124 BODRUM ESTIMATED 1935
01:40 LS152 DALAMAN ESTIMATED 2045

OltonPete 2nd Sep 2013 20:59

LS152
 
ScotsSLF

LS151 - diverted to East Mids on route to DLM when it was over Holland/Germany.

It burnt a bit of fuel over Notts, landed safely and then closed the East Mids runway for a while forcing one Thomas Cook to divert to BHX.

Not sure about the other flight.

Pete

ScotsSLF 2nd Sep 2013 21:20

Cheers OultonPete
 
Any idea what the issue was with the 151?

OltonPete 2nd Sep 2013 21:59

LS151
 
ScotsSLF

No idea but replacement aircraft now airborne EMA. It flew Leeds - Glasgow (191A) - EMA (42A) and out on the EXS151A EMA - DLM.

Pete

LBIA 2nd Sep 2013 22:02

Must be some kind of problem with G-LSAC as this is its second divert today. It stopped off in Leeds/Bradford this afternoon while operating the EXS190 service from Palma to Glasgow

On another note I hear that Jet2 will be announcing a 5th new route for summer 2014 from Leeds sometime this week.

Burnie5204 3rd Sep 2013 06:05

ScotsSLF

Loss of hydraulics with no nosewheel steering available. Landed at EMA and was towed off the runway.

I heard one of the ramp staff talk about an overheating issue as well, fire service certainly put some sort of fan onto the port MLG once it got to stand.

Someone somewhere got a bit twitchy too and they got the Police to close the M1 (and presumable the a453 too) in the undershoot until it landed.

BAladdy 3rd Sep 2013 08:01

LS have added a weekly flight from EDI to VRN starting 14th May 2014

Rosiedee 3rd Sep 2013 13:15

Any updates onthese delayed flights? Jet 2 not updating site or answering customer services
:ugh:

LBIA 3rd Sep 2013 13:23


Any updates onthese delayed flights? Jet 2 not updating site or answering customer services
Updates of the delayed flights have been posted on Jet2's website here, Status

Rosiedee 3rd Sep 2013 13:26

I did see that but surely they must have more recent info that from 4.50am!!!!

Johnny [email protected] Pants 3rd Sep 2013 13:47


I did see that but surely they must have more recent info that from 4.50am!!!!
Why would there be, there's a revised schedule on there so unless something else happens no news is good news.

simountain1 4th Sep 2013 00:33

LBIA Why the affiliate link to Jet2?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 4th Sep 2013 06:41

Because that was where the info Rosiedee was after. Now that you are looking a day later that specific information has been deleted as the flights are now all completed.

SCANDIC 4th Sep 2013 09:11

Jet 2 aircraft are to old and knackered even some of the 737-800's aren't that good either. I don't think it will be long until some of the 757's start disappearing to Fed ex.

JonnyH 4th Sep 2013 09:17

The key is maintenance, in my opinion. Jet2s fleet is double the age of TOM and TCX but they seem to be having half of the problems.

Whether that's there stand by aircraft procedure or maintenance schedule, I don't know, but they've had an almost faultless summer.

Not to mention they're extending bases, adding destinations and still making a lovely bit of profit! They're probably the envy of most airlines right now. Them "old and knackered" aircrafts are doing what Jet2 want them to do at the moment. Make money.

LiamNCL 4th Sep 2013 14:50

If Jet 2 could one day get suitable aircraft to run seasonal routes to New York etc they would be laughing ! EWR once a week ? Wishful thinking lol

Charlie98 4th Sep 2013 19:14

I must say the old knackered fleet as mentioned above overall has been by far the most punctual charter in the UK and as for the 757s although they are old they are still very good aircraft.

OntimeexceptACARS 4th Sep 2013 22:43

Charter? Thought LS were almost all scheduled.

GEB74 5th Sep 2013 14:18

"Knackered Aircraft"
I quite like a jaunt out on "Antique Airways" as we fondly call Jet2 in our family.

Trip to Faro last month was a case in point.
20 Year old Privilege Style 757 on the way out with original early nineties seating resplendent with ashtrays in the armrests. My kids had no idea what they were!!
Best part of 26 year old 737 on way back with amusingly refurbed interior whereby all the seats are replaced but they leave in the original 80's style PSU's and overhead bins. Chunky red 'call attendant' button looked more like a fire alarm switch.......

Both flights on time. Friendly crew. Decent service.
Nothing to dislike (apart from the school holidays Dick Turpin pricing)

Now - Don't get me started on Thomas Cook................

Mr Mac 5th Sep 2013 20:31

GEB 74
Just had my first taste of Jet 2 with 757 on a trip too and from Palma. Flight late outbound, sat on plane for 1 1/4 hrs while tech problem resolved. Return delayed as 757 had to be changed for alternative a/c (another 757) so late arrival by 3/4hr. LBA not impressive and both a/c late 80,s vintage. Flight cheap and CC ok but would not recommend overall due to time keeping and age of equipment. Quite surprised to hear of their North American services in the spring with this equipment :rolleyes:

Charlie98 6th Sep 2013 16:12

757s
 
With GLA & EMA apparently loosing the 757s where will they be going? NCL, LBA?

JonnyH 6th Sep 2013 18:55

I just really do not get some of the critics of Jet2 on here. Yes, the fleet is old. The crew for me though always seem to be a lot more friendly than there rivals, the leg room is better on most aircrafts in comparison with the rivals and from experience they're always a lot more punctual than there rivals. Also, from experience, and viewing details online, they always seem to be a lot better than there rivals, such as TCX & TOM, at rectifying technical issues (A/C swaps etc.).

This "the aircrafts are knackered and the interior is horrible and dated" rubbish doesn't wash with me either! Does it really matter how old the aircraft is that you're flying on? As long as it is a comfortable experience, which it usually is with Jet2, and it doesn't cost an arm & a leg then does it really matter?

You only need something new and mostly up to date spec on long haul, which Jet2 dont specialise in, so it really doesn't matter. Jet2 have came on leaps and bounds as a whole in the last few years and I don't think they should be criticises as an operator just because their aircrafts are older than others. They're obviously doing something right, look how far they've came on!!

theloudone 6th Sep 2013 19:28

I don't think people are actually getting at the crew or how much leg room you have, it`s more of an issue with an ageing fleet.

Its a reported fact that the older an aircraft, and an aircraft that has high cycles and hours with start to suffer from reliability.

Plus they will require more maintenance, fatigue takes it toll on both structures and wiring not just seats!

Newer aircraft will take the punishment of short haul flights much more efficiently, which in turn will result in lower maintenance and operating costs.

LiamNCL 6th Sep 2013 19:30

The comment about the cabin was about a leased aircraft in the shape of privellage style 757 at MAN , LS own 757s have easily the best interior of their competitors

Lord Spandex Masher 6th Sep 2013 19:31

In my experience Jet2's ageing 737s are a million times more reliable than Flybe's brand new Q400s.

Go figure!

LiamNCL 6th Sep 2013 20:01

Monarch , a much more established airline than LS still have 8 aircraft over the age of 20 in their fleet so I think it's harsh to criticise Jet 2 ! The time will come when they do start getting newer aircraft and they may then not be as affordable as they are now for their current customers .


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