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EZY7117LPL 26th Jul 2012 15:52

"A 737-800 with a full load of passengers on a wet runway will struggle to stop before the end of the runway. For that reason, I doubt whether the 738 will be used out of LBA unless the loads are light...then what's the point? "

Maybe they'll use them at Liverpool!!:p

LBIA 26th Jul 2012 16:12

"A 737-800 with a full load of passengers on a wet runway will struggle to stop before the end of the runway. For that reason, I doubt whether the 738 will be used out of LBA unless the loads are light...then what's the point? "


Well you better tell Jet2 that!

Now if you check the Jet2 website you'll see that the some of the Boeing 737-800 flights from LBA have been loaded into the system and are now on sale for next summer on routes to ALC, AGP, DLM, HER, MAH and LPA to name but a few.

Air Europa, Ryanair & Thomson have all operated Boeing 737-800's out of LBA without major problems as well.

Ivan aromer 26th Jul 2012 16:44

738 LBA
 
Something to do with steel versus carbon brakes perhaps.

OliWW 26th Jul 2012 16:53

So how did a full 763 stop in the rain last year on its return from Palma?

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 17:01


Air Europa, Ryanair & Thomson have all operated Boeing 737-800's out of LBA without major problems as well.
FR managed very well at BLK also with their 737-800, and BLK has not got a long runway .

aces low 26th Jul 2012 18:47

Mr Boeing reckons that a 737-800 with a landing mass of 60 tonnes will stop in 5000' on a wet runway (autobrake 3). This assumes touching down at the touchdown point (on the sloping away runway32 at LBA?) I seem to recall LBA being about 7300 feet long. So when you add safety factors in for dispatch, it is getting limiting to LAND a heavy aircraft on a wet runway.

I have been told that other operators either have the short-field landing kit or fly 'less than full'...neither of which I can verify.

North West 26th Jul 2012 18:57

I thought Ryanair had a base in Leeds? They only operate the 800

rudolf 26th Jul 2012 19:06

The short field pack would be ideal for LBA, however, it was only an option from about 2005 so probably too shiny for Jet2. It reduces vRef and consequently landing distance, energy related to the square of the speed and all that. The other option is carbon brakes which makes a difference. The standard -800 has similar brakes to the -300 and is significantly heavier with much higher approach speed. As has been previously stated the issues really only relate to landing at Leeds on a wet runway, dry is generally ok unless the crosswinds are up and the aircraft has winglets. I'm not sure if any of FR's aircraft have the SFP.

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 19:09

BLK has a main runway of 1869m - Which falls short of the 7300 feet long that LBA has.

I am sure that when FR was at BLK, they managed with a full, or nearly full 737-800 and I think it was a winter destination also.

I may get corrected on this, but almost sure the a/c was full, or getting there.

Lsflyer 26th Jul 2012 22:28

Does anyone know when GLSAN is due out of paint and where it will be based? isnt it long overdue now?

mikkie4 26th Jul 2012 22:41

jet2
 
why are jet2 reluctent to either fly or base any aircraft down south.they dont wont to use ltn/stn/sen on a regular bases,only the occational flight

Ernest Lanc's 26th Jul 2012 22:52

They started at Leeds and have gone Scotland and now as far South as East Midlands ...I expect as more a/c are available, Jet2 will creep down South.

jubilee 27th Jul 2012 06:47

Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

No doubt when they obtain more aircraft, they may possible move south.
J

tonker 27th Jul 2012 08:16

Exeter:ok:

Ernest Lanc's 27th Jul 2012 11:07


Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

Thank's for that Jubilee...I have edited.

Chille Con Carnie 27th Jul 2012 20:07

G-lsan
 
G-LSAN due out of paint mid week?

Fairdealfrank 27th Jul 2012 21:58

Quote: "Jet2 are as far south as East Midlands, Ernest.

No doubt when they obtain more aircraft, they may possible move south.
J
"

Would be good to see these guys in the south!

Maybe Northolt one day...or is that a flock of pigs flying past?

2Planks 28th Jul 2012 10:07

A flock of pigs off a very short runway - can't see fully loaded 73s departing NHT

OltonPete 28th Jul 2012 10:43

Northolt
 
Boeing 707-321, N725PA, Pan American World Airways (PA / PAA)

If a 707 can do this...................;)

drifting way off thread but an amazing incident to say the least.

Pete

EZY7117LPL 28th Jul 2012 16:34

If there is anyone who can shed any light on a Liverpool operation please do so. Feel free to PM me if you dont want to make the info public.


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