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HolmLeigh 18th Aug 2016 22:18

Roster Disruption continues at J2 unabated
 
For anybody thinking of joining us, think very carefully before you decide. There are many more much 'Pilot Friendlier' airlines out there.

Roster disruption is endemic at Jet2. It always has been and it looks as though it always will be. The company says it's the same with other companies , maybe so but not to the extent it is at J2.

Asking around at the moment as to why people are leaving and the most popular answers are, Roster Stability and the managements ludicrous decision recently to make all simulator stand in duties assessable.

Previously, simulator stand in duties were viewed as valuable extra simulator exposure in between your own LPC/OPC which would be rostered twice a year. I gather with some other companies, simulator stand in is voluntary and you are actually asked if you would be prepared to stand in.
Not at J2, somebody who is rostered for simulator stand in, is in as much jeopardy as the person on check. Some people are getting 2 or 3 stand ins per month. It is particularly stressful for Senior F/Os who , getting near to command previously needed to work towards good sim grades twice a year. Now they have a potential 'Career buster' maybe 2 or 3 times a month !

It's becoming such a sensitive issue that crewing are keeping sim stand ins from the rosters and calling you from home standby at the very last minute to cut down on 'sickness'

Chesty Morgan 18th Aug 2016 22:27

Really? Absolutely not an issue if you're a competent professional.

Council Van 19th Aug 2016 00:21

My latest stand in is 14 days notice though I do get more than my fare share, in my opinion.

At my previous operator double jepoardy applied. Is it not a CAA requirements anyway?

Johnny [email protected] Pants 19th Aug 2016 02:29


the managements ludicrous decision recently to make all simulator stand in duties assessable.
Stand in always was and will be double jeopardy. As a stand in during an LPC or OPC you are not required to do much except operate competently as PM for the vast majority of the time, if you can't cope with that then maybe you should be taking a look at your professional attitude.

If, as I suspect, you are referring to LOE's then these are just like doing a Line Check when it is your FO or Captain who is on check, effectively you are on check too, again all that is required is a competent level of performance, just like it should be on any day of the week.

As for the number of Stand Ins that you are rostered, have you spoken to Crew Planning, your Base Captain, or the relevant Manager to try to resolve the "issue"?

INKJET 19th Aug 2016 07:21

So you want a roster that tells you in advance that on xx day you will have an engine failure for real........its a bit like driving home p****d and telling the police that if you knew you'd be stopped you wouldn't have had that extra pint!! and this from a company that likes to boast that its recruitment/HR depart is the best in the business, if you fly everyday as though it were a line check it becomes second nature.

HeartyMeatballs 19th Aug 2016 08:53

At my outfit we call it sandbagging. If you're near to a sim and on standby then you can get called in. I bumped into someone the other day and he told me his mate was called in twice last month to sandbag.

Each training event you do raises a training report. However I don't think a training report is raised if you are the sandbag but I do know that if you mess up then you will be treated in the same way as if you were on your LPC OPC LOE. It is however not voluntary. You are required to do it exactly the same as any other duty.

I can imagine this is more common for the LBA based guys with the sim being just down the road? At our bases with the sims it is much more common.

Council Van 19th Aug 2016 09:36

Roster stability.

The sim stand in with 14 days notice I mentioned above is only my third change in 3 months, that is hardly traumatic amount of changes is it?

The only thing he that count on your roster are days off, for the other days Jet2 own you. If you want their money then do as they command.

chaders 19th Aug 2016 12:30

Stand ins have never been 'no jeopardy' the only thing that's changed is the report writing at the end as far as I'm aware. As for them not showing on ones roster I have one rostered for the end of September so that can't be right. Disruption seems to affect some more than others. I've obviously got off lightly from the sound of it. This summer I've hardly had any changes.

Council Van 19th Aug 2016 18:34

Oh no, another roster change!


Stand in sim has been taken off me, how will I cope.

Jet2_738 19th Aug 2016 18:40

Win a Trip to Boeing, Seattle, USA - Jet2.com & Jet2holidays

RE the new aircraft, the PR team have put together what they call a 'once in a lifetime' trip to Seattle to see it, including return flights, spending money and 3 nights in the city, aswell as a holiday to Tenerife. And a trip to Boeing’s Museum of Flight for the official unveiling of the frame and ceremonial signing event.

The first aircraft is 'officially' unveiled at a press event on Monday 12th September.

RVF750 19th Aug 2016 18:46

Shame we can't enter......

CSman 19th Aug 2016 20:13

Seattle wonderful part of the world, been there many times when I was working, went to Seattle for a short holiday in July I did a trip around the Boeing factory, very poor, no cameras allowed not even on the flightline In contrast Boeing Museum of Flight,wonderful,would urge any one on a visit to Seattle to go there

BFS BHD 20th Aug 2016 20:18

Any idea what happened to B733 G-GDFB at Tenerife? Hasn't moved from last night after coming in from Belfast.

Council Van 20th Aug 2016 20:22

It appears that the Manch 757 stby set off to rescue the customers earlier today.

It arrived at Belfast at half nine this evening.

LEEDS APPROACH 21st Aug 2016 08:11


Originally Posted by Jet2_738 (Post 9479298)
Win a Trip to Boeing, Seattle, USA - Jet2.com & Jet2holidays

RE the new aircraft, the PR team have put together what they call a 'once in a lifetime' trip to Seattle to see it, including return flights, spending money and 3 nights in the city, aswell as a holiday to Tenerife. And a trip to Boeing’s Museum of Flight for the official unveiling of the frame and ceremonial signing event.

The first aircraft is 'officially' unveiled at a press event on Monday 12th September.

I wonder if it will be a replacement for 'Jet2 Yorkshire'? G-CELB?

bjones4 30th Aug 2016 00:22

First of the new 737-8MGs complete and awaiting paint out on the flight line - https://flic.kr/p/LuwtKR

Any ideas on what the registration of this one will be?

irishlad06 30th Aug 2016 02:57

Any ideas on what the registration of this one will be?[/QUOTE]



G-JZHJ confirmed.

MerchantVenturer 31st Aug 2016 11:23

Expansion
 
Jet2.com to create almost 1,000 new jobs - BBC News

Jet2 is to create nearly 1,000 new jobs, including 180 pilots, 700 cabin crew and 80 engineers.

The CEO is quoted: "We have exciting plans to expand the number of destinations we fly to, as well as the number of UK bases we fly from, and this means that our team is growing all the time too."

HeartyMeatballs 31st Aug 2016 12:52

As much as I want them to succeed the expansion and the 30 brand new 737s with mortgages need paid. With the economic winds strengthening, a softening demand due to geopolitics and a step change in the business plan, are they not over exposing themselves to risk?

CSman 31st Aug 2016 14:00

I do hope that I am wrong,but being an old timer have seen this situation before, Company buys lots of New aircraft ,rapid expansion .I refer of course to Court line,one moment the top of the tree, next gone Many good people lost their jobs Hope Jet2 do not fall into this trap


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