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LAX_LHR 10th Jul 2017 17:39

U21315 GVA 0730 SOU 0815
U21316 SOU 0900 GVA 1130

Tue/Thu

U21315 GVA 0900 SOU 0945
U21316 SOU 1025 GVA 1305

Sun.

Starts 14th Dec until 22nd March.

Rivet Joint 10th Jul 2017 18:20

KLM
 
Bit strange that the summer holidays has any bearing on their schedule? Still lots of Asian students doing summer courses plus Amaterdam must have a big leisure take up for the holiday season? People still do business over the summer last time I checked.

Great news if the EZY news is true. A hint to SOU to build some bigger stands for more A320s? Anyone know what the SOU plans to announce in the autumn? You would be hard pressed to find a plane that lands on time and then leaves on time. Usually leave 20-30 mins late presumably because of having to wait for planes using the runway as a taxiway.

stewyb 10th Jul 2017 18:37

If this news is correct, then there cannot be a better argument for further airfield infrastructure. If the orange lot coming to SOU doesn't improve stand space, taxiways and starter strip then I am afraid nothing will (was this part of the deal)

LAX_LHR 10th Jul 2017 18:53

The Easyjet flights are showing in Amadeus so should be true.

Wycombe 10th Jul 2017 20:52

Is this a movement (or partial movement) of the route from BOH, or complementary to it?

Will be a wakeup for BEE that EZY start moving in on their turf at SOU.

IB4138 11th Jul 2017 07:53

It is an opening at Southampton with BEE pulling off the sun routes at the end of September.

MARKEYD 11th Jul 2017 08:51

Thats a big coup for Southampton to pull off getting Easy Jet in ! !
even if it is only 3 flights a week its a start and could pave the way for a summer operation possibly ?

At the moment the flights are not taking over any flights from BOH which remain the same at 6 services a week all on the A319 where Southampton flights look to be on the larger A320

IB4138 11th Jul 2017 09:11

A320 operations are restricted by airfield limitations at Southampton. More likely to be A319.

GCILover 11th Jul 2017 11:55

I used to work at SOU when every Saturday we would have a full A320 going to Palma. A shorter flight to GVA should not cause any issues

canberra97 11th Jul 2017 11:59

As to the airfield restrictions at SOU regarding the A320 in the past operators such as Iberworld and Spanair have regularly used them on routes to Spain and that was in the summer so I should imagine there wouldn't be to many restrictions to Geneva especially during the winter.

Although if any future plans for EasyJet at SOU include opening up sun routes the A319 would be more of an appropriate aircraft to use.

Good luck to EasyJet at Southampton and here's hoping the future holds well for further routes ' the futures Orange' :-)

Cyrano 11th Jul 2017 12:10


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 9826671)
Will be a wakeup for BEE that EZY start moving in on their turf at SOU.

It certainly should be a wakeup for BEE: if EZY can start to cherry-pick the attractive routes out of SOU, it's no longer a fortress for BEE.

But they are heavy sleepers in EXT, and anyway it's not clear they have any idea what to do if and when they do wake up! :cool:

Buster the Bear 11th Jul 2017 12:30

Press confirmation here https://buyingbusinesstravel.com/new...3656ff-3460153

inOban 11th Jul 2017 12:50

To be pedantic, these new flights are EZS, EasySuisse, from the timings.

stewyb 11th Jul 2017 12:52

Do you guys believe this deal would have been struck on the basis that Easyjet want to see airfield infrastructure improvements and will only commit to further route expansion on this condition? If so, this is almost certainly the wake up call the airport owners require as its not every day the orange lot come knocking and SOU will surely want to keep them on board.

yeo valley 11th Jul 2017 13:02

I wonder how much it will hit boh with the gva route starting this winterout of sou.

davidjohnson6 11th Jul 2017 13:09

I would be concerned as to what happens to Flybe if Easyjet start flying from Southampton to places like Edinburgh, Manchester, Amsterdam, Glasgow and Jersey - ie the kind of year-round routes which Flybe needs to ensure long term survival. These five routes alone cover 47% of passenger traffic at Southampton - and likely more than 50% of traffic on Flybe's routes at SOU

Ultimately it'll be a question as to how aggressive Easyjet want to be towards Flybe which is already struggling with profitability - they have the potential to make Flybe's life extremely difficult at Southampton but as a major airline they will not want to get themselves into any particular trouble around competition concerns

richardwpprn 11th Jul 2017 13:22


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 9827383)
To be pedantic, these new flights are EZS, EasySuisse, from the timings.

Yes DS / EZS flights.

Flitefone 11th Jul 2017 14:09


Originally Posted by yeo valley (Post 9827398)
I wonder how much it will hit boh with the gva route starting this winterout of sou.

This move will be for two reasons: lack of slots at Gatwick and going after more of the traffic currently using LHR. EZY will be seeking to grow pax not to cannibalise their existing business.

EZY had a comprehensive study on demand and catchment done for the Airports Commission, LHR is where the action is and EZY want more of it, + both SOU and BOH leak passengers to LHR.

https://corporate.easyjet.com/~/medi...ts-jan2015.pdf

FF

RW20 11th Jul 2017 14:19

Flitefone

The commencing of easy jet operations from Southampton is good news for the airport,however the prospect of them developing other routes from the airport will be hampered by lack of suitable stands and Runway length, especially in hot weather which would limit 320 operations to the sun.
Stand improvements/increase,and Runway starter strip increase will take considerable time to put into place and that is only if the money was found and approval given.So immediate increase in easy flights looks limited at present
The airport owners and management have had ample time since the 2005 airport master plan to put the above measures into place,but sadly this has never materialised.

stewyb 11th Jul 2017 14:36

RW20

A quick fix and certain improvement would be to re-size stands 2-5 from 4 to 3, thus being able to accommodate A319/320 size aircraft from Volotea and Easy. Are stands 13-14 used at all for passenger traffic? I also read somewhere that runway resurfacing is due in 17/18 so assume they may tie this in with a northern taxiway and starter strip


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