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Welshtraveller 10th May 2012 15:42

Birmingham to Milan
 
Which airline operates Flybe's Birmingham to Milan route in June? Is it one of the new aircrafts? Thanks

OltonPete 10th May 2012 16:16

Milan
 
Welshtraveller

The original schedule shows the EMB195 which are 3.5 - 5.5 years old.

Of course flybe are very flexible with their aircraft and the DUS 175 could be
subbed-in on the flight last minute if their were any tech problems but this is unlikely and I don't think has happened yet.

The 175 is down to operate the Milan this winter in place of the Q400 with the 195 operating the afternoon DUS.

ZULUBOY 10th May 2012 19:31

BER airport delay
 
Really hope this delay doesn't affect the BHX flights. Hopefully they'll just fly into Tegel until BER opens

Fairdealfrank 10th May 2012 20:05

Quote: "I'm travelling internally in Brazil in a couple of weeks time and have to transfer from Rio de Janeiro International Airport to Rio's Santos Dumont airport. Has anyone had to make the same switch and if so, any advice, tips etc...."

Monty Gordo, have a look at this:

To and From the Airport.com - Rio de Janeiro


Happy landings! Hope you're stopping over in Rio for a few days.....

Monty Gordo 10th May 2012 21:15

Fairdealfrank
 
Thanks for the info, a great help.

Schedule does not permit time in Rio on the way out hence your info on finding the best and safest way between the two airports is very helpful. Plan to stop over though on the way back from Goiania.

Once again, thanks.

GayFriendly 11th May 2012 10:15


Really hope this delay doesn't affect the BHX flights. Hopefully they'll just fly into Tegel until BER opens
So do I!! Am booked on it twice over the summer to visit family - guess there could be another re-timing of flights or in worst case scenario I will end up being rerouted via FRA or MUC if the direct flight doesn't start :rolleyes: Still can't be helped I suppose. I should imagine LH are doing their very best to operate their full schedule to/from TXL but it is already a heavily congested airport, this could be a PR disaster in the making for LH?

Welshtraveller 11th May 2012 16:48

Milan
 
Many thanks OltonPete, very useful.

OltonPete 12th May 2012 12:21

Berlin & Amsterdam
 
GF

Most flights seem to be going ahead from Tegal per the press release but I remain sceptical, plenty have cast doubt that TXL will cope. I am on the first flight and the flight times have changed three times already and there is little give with TXL night curfew (22.30 arrival)!

Lufthansa ® - Current travel information

KLM

From 2/7/12 the KL1425/6 lunchtime flight is now showing as the 737-700W.

Hardly going to cover the 496 seats a day lost from BMI Baby but a start I suppose and I doubt they could do much due to the lack of time.

Odd that the EIR ATR72 Dublin flight has gone back on sale rather than Knock announced although not seen it myself as I just can't get their site to work half the time - must be my computer settings.

Pete

Suzeman 13th May 2012 19:48

Relevance
 

..Only that my journey starts at BHX with KLM and travelling internally into Brazil might be a route other businessmen take and may have experience to pass on.
OK; fair comment Mr Gordo - and you got some useful replies.

Might be worth thinking of a separate thread for this type of query next time as someone with knowledge of your query might not be bothered with the BHX thread but would pick it up if it was a separate one.

Anyway enjoy Brazil :ok:

Suzeman

Fairdealfrank 14th May 2012 15:17

Quote: "I'm travelling internally in Brazil in a couple of weeks time and have to transfer from Rio de Janeiro International Airport to Rio's Santos Dumont airport. Has anyone had to make the same switch and if so, any advice, tips etc...."

Monty Gordo, have a look at this as well:

Galeão GIG Airport Public Bus, GIG Coach Services and GIG Private Bus Transfers in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

OltonPete 14th May 2012 16:56

April Passenger Figures up 2.4%
 
CAA figures: April 2012 BHX 701541 up 2.4% rolling year 8608598 - 0.6

ATM's 6866 +2.1 rolling year 83309 -2.3%

I have not seen the breakdown between charter and passengers but Manchester was certainly dragged down by a significant decrease in IT pax.

BHX had on extra Monarch based and virtually one extra BMI baby
compared to April 2011.

Pete

GayFriendly 14th May 2012 17:36

Pax Figures/BER
 
Great news about pax figures, will be interested to see the usual OP breakdown by route, extra ZB this summer should help but WW more than likely closure in Sept might then cloud things

Just found this on FR website


3 Jun – 4 Aug: Brandenburg Berlin Airport

The operators of Berlin Brandenburg Airport have announced that it is necessary to postpone the commencement of flights to/from this airport from the 3rd of June to the 5th of August 2012.
Ryanair flights scheduled to operate to/from Berlin Brandenburg Airport from the 3rd June – 4th August 2012 will now operate to/from Berlin Schönefeld airport.
Berlin Schönefeld is on the same site as Berlin Brandenburg Airport
Email notification will be sent to all affected passengers.

I am flying mid July and have had no email from LH yet......I wonder if BER will now be delayed from BHX? Can't see LH operating to SXF having avoided it like the plague for years although it would be quite ironic if they did! TXL will not be able to cope with all these extra flights if thats what LH does do. My second flight is mid Aug so hopefully will be sorted by then :)

BHX5DME 14th May 2012 19:22

AMSTERDAM 42,671 down -2.98
DUBLIN 41,554 down -3.28
DUBAI 39,490 down -12.37
ALICANTE 30,854 up 8.11
PARIS (CHARLES DE GAULLE) 30,171 up 7.42
MALAGA 28,091 down -3.66
TENERIFE (SURREINA SOFIA) 27,647 down -3.97
FRANKFURT MAIN 23,737 down -1.23
PALMA DE MALLORCA 18,502 up 4.41
FARO 16,765 down -13.43
ARRECIFE 15,610 down -7.90
MUNICH 13,353 up 23.67
DUSSELDORF 13,171 down -2.00
ZURICH 11,607 down -5.30
ISLAMABAD 10,121 up 0.18
LAS PALMAS 9,749 up 15.70
PAPHOS 8,579 up 158.48
SHARM EL SHEIKH (OPHIRA) 8,533 down -4.55
ROME (FIUMICINO) 8,513 n/a 0.00
DALAMAN 8,486 up 4.26
BRUSSELS 8,366 down -4.03
FUERTEVENTURA 8,142 down -16.88
ISTANBUL 7,428 up 51.04
MURCIA SAN JAVIER 6,982 down -5.64
COPENHAGEN 6,979 down -2.21
HANOVER 6,903 up 7.41
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 6,650 down -23.34
LARNACA 6,550 down -31.25
GENEVA 6,426 down -18.20
CORK 6,371 up 8.33
ASHKHABAD 5,629 up 4.01
MILAN (MALPENSA) 5,425 up 53.16
ANTALYA 5,371 up 72.42
IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 5,232 up 33.40
GERONA 4,787 up 28.54
PRAGUE 4,378 n/a 0.00
KATOWICE 4,232 up 42.20
BYDGOSZCZ 4,070 down -6.95
BARCELONA 3,913 n/a 0.00
BRATISLAVA 3,844 down -9.55
VENICE 3,592 up 1532.73
REUS 3,544 down -0.53
NICE 3,438 up 14.07
IBIZA 3,392 up 13.18
ALMERIA 3,363 up 17.88
STUTTGART 3,171 up 16.97
RZESZOW 3,001 up 13.85
SHANNON 2,976 down -0.30
MALTA 2,976 down -36.56
KAUNAS 2,870 up 7.73
GDANSK 2,587 down -8.03
MAHON 2,489 down -15.31
BUDAPEST 2,367 n/a 0.00
MONTPELLIER 2,308 up 32.72
MONTEGO BAY 2,055 up 17.63
HAMBURG 2,036 up 2.11
TRIESTE (RONCHI DEI LEGIONARI) 1,951 up 2.52
CANCUN 1,910 down -45.00
SANFORD 1,904 up 50.63
FUNCHAL 1,806 up 15.77
LISBON 1,749 n/a 0.00
HERAKLION 1,649 up 8.34
ILHA DO SAL C.VERDE 1,620 down -8.78
BODRUM (MILAS) 1,556 up 4.43
WATERFORD 1,554 up 28.96
HURGHADA 1,486 down -55.79
CHAMBERY 1,482 down -35.48
BANJUL 1,469 down -3.16
BOA VISTA (RABIL) 1,435 n/a 0.00
RHODES 1,429 down -5.92
NAPLES 1,412 up 14.05
BRIDGETOWN 1,376 up 64.20
PADERBORN 1,266 up 50.71
GRENOBLE 1,192 down -30.25
GOTEBORG 1,049 down -14.02
INNSBRUCK 1,040 up 1.27
TURIN 790 up 416.34
ORLANDO 416 n/a 0.00
TARBES-LOURDES INTERNATIONAL 264 up 17.86
ST PETERSBURG 139 n/a 0.00
PERPIGNAN 113 up 25.56
TOULOUSE (BLAGNAC) 105 n/a 0.00
ROTTERDAM 56 n/a 0.00

Occams Razor 14th May 2012 20:08

These two jumped out at me:

DUBAI 39,490 down -12.37
NEW YORK (NEWARK) 6,650 down -23.34

Anything to be worried about?

OltonPete 14th May 2012 21:01

April
 
Occams Razor

The Newark was strange as there were four pre-planned cancellations as well as the Wednesday flight did not start until May. They were cancelled months before as I was comparing prices on BHX-EWR in April before finally deciding to use my Airmiles on JFK - LHR.

Therefore there were only 44 rotations this April leaving an average of 151 per flight or 89% (169 seats)

Last April 60 rotations at 145 per flight at an average of 83% (175 seats).

Belfast suffered the same and of course Manchester went from two daily for one although it was in preparation of the Washington starting in May.

As for EK all the UK routes were down other than Manchester and they only added just over 3000 with any extra flight a day.

On the positive side Islamabad was up when LHR and MAN were down. Average 298 seats at 85%.

Pete

GayFriendly 14th May 2012 21:55

And these two jumped out at me:

MILAN (MALPENSA) 5,425 up 53.16

IRELAND WEST(KNOCK) 5,232 up 33.40

On figures alone ZB obviously having a positive impact on MXP! As for NOC, increased frequency has increased pax numbers, shame EI haven't jumped in on what is likely to be a lost route come Sept.

Again, on figures alone, a good start made by BUD, nice to see and BE doing well on WAT

NCE up 14% I hope someone takes that on eventually, although it's probably lean pickings as a year round route?

Occams Razor 15th May 2012 09:33

Thanks OltonPete, comprehensive as ever :)

OltonPete 15th May 2012 21:19

Berlin/Palma
 
Berlin

My reservation has changed to Tegal same times at the moment. So it does seem to be going ahead with a 22.30 arrival at Tegal and our hotel in the eastern part of the city :hmm:

Palma

Ryanair have added a Monday morning Palma for August inbound 08.35
departs BHX 09.00.

Porto re-appeared earlier in the booking engine although it seems to come and go that one. I don't think it ever got taken out of the online check-in.

Pete

OltonPete 16th May 2012 22:38

flybe
 
The BHX-BHD booking engine has been updated to 7 x 195's operating Monday - Friday, 2 x 175 on a Saturday plus a Q400 with Sunday 1 x 175 and 3 x 195.

Not quite all jet but pretty close. Compared to summer 2011 with Baby on the route, there is an average weekday about 100 less seats a day.

The second 175 is still down for 1/6/12 STR x 2 daily and HAM daily in the week but it seems to disappear to Glasgow from July for their Southampton route and the Q400 returns for STR & HAM until winter.

However 2 x 175's scheduled at the weekend all summer at present.

In high summer the DUS 175 in the afternoon is non-ops and the 175 operates some French increased frequency routes such as Bergerac and Avignon.

I am sure a lot of this is work in progress due to the Baby situation.

Pete

Burpbot 17th May 2012 00:01

Not sure where your info is from Pete, but know for fact dash is flying str in June, Routing HAM/STR :(

I really hope your right though!!!


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