That's it, the final straw. He'd argue night is day. There is no reasoning with him, no cogent argument permeates the mantra. He's blocked and i shall enjoy the reasoned postings from both sides without feature length diatribes and consistently inaccurate predictions.

How good is the wifi on this airline over the ocean? Thinking of flying with them so that I can get the day flight back.

The 757s don't have it Owen, only the Airbuses do, and the day flight is a Boeing

Well I am happy with that as it has tv's. As long as I get a day flight I don't care.

I was just wondering about the wifi speed on the way over.

Its terrible wifi, dont even try to do more than check your Facebook or slowly upload photos. The PING would be very very high due to it being satellite and the download and uploads speeds would be sluggish at best.

On-board wifi is really for the people who NEED internet access, for everyone else its a littke bit of a waste of money. Try it once! But i wouldnt do it more than once, €20 is a nice fork out for WiFi that'll make you cry.

Does it work better within Radar/VHF range? IE does it default to traditional vhf tx/rx when able?

A little off topic, but Emirates give the first 10MB for free then charge $1 for the next 500MB. Shame that Aer Lingus feels the need to rip off their customers...

No, it only uses the dorsal antenna which is Ku-band:

http://www.panasonic.aero/InFlightCo...echnology.aspx

Panasonic exConnect network:

http://www.runwaygirlnetwork.com/wp-...nasonic-Ku.jpg

uses Intelsat Global Connex satellites

http://www.intelsat.com/infrastructu...coverage-maps/


For reference, Emirates use onAir connectivity which rides on Inmarsat satellites.

http://www.onair.aero/en/commercial-...s-how-it-works

Racedo, this Government would be inept at handling the proceeds of such a sale.

The WiFi on the A330s is pretty decent, certainly adequate for browsing, sending iMessages, etc. WiFi is complementary for Business Class passengers, and chargeable in Economy (€8 for an hour, €14 for the flight - I think its actually 24 hours pass). As it is a satellite system it works reliably over the atlantic, I didn't suffer any noticeable problems. Im not sure if Spotify or similar would work, I think youTube is blocked.

Considering UK Train operators charge £4 an hour to use 3G WiFi (the system is provided by EE's 3G network - i.e. the network your phone already uses), I don't think EI prices are unreasonable, given that you are hurtling through the sky at 500mph and don't have a lot of other options.

From some digging around, I found these rates for Singapore Airlines


The latter being what Aer Lingus also use. So they don't seem to be pricing above market rates for that service.

They politicians............... would one expect any different ?

How is it that Emirates can do it so much cheaper?

Ryanair:

Racedo:

More Racedo:

Either the latter is complete waffle, or the former is. You can't have it both ways.

As for this:

I said nothing about LSE listing rules and don't have to prove anything. The CMA has ruled they must sell the shares. It is (slowly) happening. I just have to wait and watch FR fail to disprove it. :)

Are you really comparing Emirates with Aer Lingus?

Out of Ireland it's just DL who offer it at similar rates. If UA offer the service free (sep 15 eta on roll-out) I'm sure EI will follow. It's not cheap to install so they will charge while they can

Meanwhile newspaper reports suggest IAG will be back next week with new guarantees and EI have assured works T&C's of employment won't change if it goes through.

A quadruple room with AIG and AerLingus sharing the large comfortable bed. Ryanair are in the extra large super comfortable Single Bed and the Irish Government's bed is empty as they are in the bathroom flossing their teeth or something.


Remember, the tax payer needs a return on the large amounts of capital injection AerLingus needed previously...just saying.

Noxegon, Emirates have a completely different model than EI for IFEC.

For instance EK carry a much larger proportion of high net worth premium passengers, than most/all European or US airlines. These pax want to buy high value duty fee on board. Even the odd Rolex apparently.

The cabin communications facility allows EK crews use of credit card authorisation facilities in flight, to reduce fraudulent use of credit cards on board, which otherwise permit the pax to exit the aircraft with the goods in hand, but without actually having paid.

EK also want to offer the industry leading IFEC capability, this impacts their pricing policy for cabin comms offered to pax too.

Sober Lark,


A very good point regarding return on previous capital injections.
Perhaps you could remind us just how much was injected by the state over the past thirty or forty years. It would surely help to introduce reality into this discussion.
Thanks, in anticipation.

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As for formal bid to shareholders, No formal offer has been made or sent to Shareholders.

Aer Lingus was bankrupt and close to financial collapse if it wasn't for the Irish tax payer. How you calculate the true value of those payments into today's terms is for those negotiating on our behalf to consider strongly. As tax payers we are reminded that we have turned a corner on adverse economic conditions and if this really is the case then then unless he has something spectacular up his sleeve, Mr. Walsh won't be carpetbagging any green flying machines.