Irish PSO decision made
PSO routes from Knock, Galway, Sligo and Derry will cease from the middle of this year. Kerry and Donegal to continue.
Transport.ie :: Press Release |
Hi All
PSO's finish in July of this year so only 6 months to go. Regardless of what they say Aer Arann have a big hole to fill. 5Q |
PSO's finish in July of this year so only 6 months to go. Regardless of what they say Aer Arann have a big hole to fill. DUB SXL x2 DUB LDY x2 DUB GWY x3 DUB NOC x1 When will DUB KIR tender be revisited? And if it is will Aer Arann be able to get it by virtue of the fact that they could offer more than 1 flight a day and be successful given Ryanair's changes on the route to 1 daily? I am not sure GWY would be axed, though scaled back significantly maybe to a early morning GWY DUB and a late evening DUB GWY. That would provide an aircraft for DUB early in the morning for other flights eg IOM, or maybe IOM would become Aer Lingus Regional. Moreover, what future for SXL? What will be left of Aer Arann brand at DUB? EI-BUD |
Moreover, what future for SXL? What will be left of Aer Arann brand at DUB? DUB has been it's only route since 07 and even the ATR4 was load limited due to very short landing area designation needed to create RESAs. There are several legal and physical obstacles to expansion (namely the protected bay and lack of local support) so the runway extension will likely never happen. But the rescue service and training/maintanance companies are still based there, should still have a future for GA. |
The 5Q
Surely this was anticipated at the time Stobarts made their investment in Aer Arann and that is where the planned SEN based aircraft will come from. |
When will DUB KIR tender be revisited? And if it is will Aer Arann be able to get it by virtue of the fact that they could offer more than 1 flight a day and be successful given Ryanair's changes on the route to 1 daily? |
I would suggest that RE now have a fleet with aircraft size far in excess of what post PSO grant makes these routes viable. Looking at for example Manx2 from BHD-ORK, if these routes are to continue at any viable frequency I would suggest that this is the type of operator that would fill the void.
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Yes, the decision to retain DUB-KIR within the PSO network does indeed appear a bit odd. Cynically, as you say this could be a roundabout means to get FR off the PSO |
Bingo! Aisle 2c. JHR gets whatever he wants, new hospitals, by passes sure..a pso route is small potatoe
Hopefully with the whole FF game failing apart a lot of the strokes being pulled by the DAA and within the Irish aviation biz will come to light soon enough. Will be interesting to see if the new crowd are any different. The DAA is riddled with FF people though so could be interesting what happens there. |
I would suggest that RE now have a fleet with aircraft size far in excess of what post PSO grant makes these routes viable. Looking at for example Manx2 from BHD-ORK, if these routes are to continue at any viable frequency I would suggest that this is the type of operator that would fill the void. Speaking of the RE fleet, looks like most of them are destined for new SOU base now? |
A couple of points on this
Most people seem to have made an assumption that RE would automatically have both re-tendered for and won the PSO's when they became available. While the former was likely, the latter was not a certainty by any means. That said, the PSO's were reckoned to be worth €13m per year to RE, their revenue in 2010 was reported as being circa €61m. IMHO, if they get it right with the Aer Lingus Regional operations they could recover the revenue in 2 years. JAS |
Speaking of the RE fleet, looks like most of them are destined for new SOU base now? |
Speaking of the RE fleet, looks like most of them are destined for new [SEN] base now? IMHO, if they get it right with the Aer Lingus Regional operations they could recover the revenue in 2 years (1) There have been rumours going around for a while that they may be sniffing after DUB-LCY which would probably lock up a whole ATR-72 (2) It would also not surprise me if you find that EI "mainline" end up dumping their 3 per day DUB-BHX in favour of an EI "Regional" 5 per day ATR72 operation. If you then calculate the number of airframes that Arann might have that no longer have PSO operations attached to them from July, and factor in the two possible above operations from DUB, what does that actually leave you in terms of aircraft for a SEN operation? I assume that whilst NOC-DUB, SXL-DUB, LDY-DUB etc would probably end, there is a fighting chance that Arann might remain on GWY-DUB? |
there is a fighting chance that Arann might remain on GWY-DUB? |
..but will they if there is no PSO funding??? Would'nt a KIR-DUB be a better option for them and there is a chance to integrate into the Manchester existing service MAN-KIR. At least the KIR attracts funding!!! The real damage losing PSO will do is reduce operating hours, that was the real benefit subsadising "out of hours" operations for red eye services. If GWY survives it will probably halve their operating hours. Didn't they bring in several ATC "tea breaks" last year? |
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