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Jamie2k9 27th Mar 2012 00:03

A hydraulic leak on 10/28.

Lufthansa's 2012 capacity at DUB has being increased 16%, FRA will have 11% increase with MUC and DUS the other 4%.

EI-A330-300 27th Mar 2012 22:31

Fly in from DXB this morning and there was plently of unhappy EK passengers who couldn't fly.....

I bet EK can't wait until 1 July comes around.

Noxegon 28th Mar 2012 04:58

I'm wondering why EK don't bump the aircraft size early if they are full every day...

stab3.5up 28th Mar 2012 07:17

Or an extension of an exiisting flight operating into frs for example just to pivk up the slack

Cyrano 28th Mar 2012 08:07


Originally Posted by stab3.5up (Post 7104508)
Or an extension of an exiisting flight operating into frs for example just to pivk up the slack

FRS = Santa Elena, Guatemala. I know that EK's expansion plans are dramatic but still...?

EK has had some very aggressive fares in the market to drive demand for the new Dublin service. That means that the average yield on the first few months' flights is likely to be lower.

One-stop flights bring significant extra cost, not only in fuel but also in two sets of landing and handling charges, extra cycle-based maintenance costs, and potentially additional crewing costs, to say nothing of the scheduling complexity if with the extra stop in each direction the aircraft can't return to DXB in time for the relevant hub wave. Unless the airline has traffic rights to sell the extra sector (FRA-DUB if you meant FRA above, for example - and the chances of EK getting cabotage rights in the EU in the short term are at best precisely zero), then the aircraft will be largely empty on that shorter leg.

Therefore I'm afraid that the idea of adding an operationally complex one-stop flight at considerable extra cost for just a couple of months in order to pick some a relatively small amount of relatively low-yield traffic is not really a runner in economic terms. (I am being diplomatic :cool:)

Sober Lark 28th Mar 2012 10:04

'relatively small amount of relatively low-yield traffic is not really a runner in economic terms'

People long sickened by the inconvenience of transfers at the likes of LHR now have a choice and are voting with their feet. Given a choice wouldn't anyone prefer a one stop service to the likes of AUS and NZ from here rather than a couple of extra hours hanging around LHR, FRA, CDG, AMS etc.

Jamie2k9 28th Mar 2012 10:27

Air Moldova to start a weekly flight to Chisinau via FRA from 19 June-4 September with an A320. every Tuesday.

Chisinau - Frankfurt - Dublin - 05.25-06.55-08.10-09.10
Dublin -Frankfurt - Chisinau - 10.15-13.15-14.15-17.35

They don't have the rights for DUB-FRA-DUB flights.

They had announced flights to DUB with LH from FRA a while back.

stab3.5up 28th Mar 2012 12:21

Prob a backlash frm demise of malev shoud do very well

Cyrano 28th Mar 2012 12:51


Originally Posted by Sober Lark (Post 7104747)
'relatively small amount of relatively low-yield traffic is not really a runner in economic terms'

People long sickened by the inconvenience of transfers at the likes of LHR now have a choice and are voting with their feet. Given a choice wouldn't anyone prefer a one stop service to the likes of AUS and NZ from here rather than a couple of extra hours hanging around LHR, FRA, CDG, AMS etc.

Don't quote me out of context, please.:= The original poster was suggesting that EK tag a Dublin sector onto one of their existing flights, e.g. FRA-DXB, which would give a one-stop flight from DUB to Dubai and thus a two-stop itinerary, not one-stop, to AUS/NZ. That's not a particularly attractive offer compared to one-stop itineraries (e.g. via DXB or AUH) and the operating costs would be higher. Hence "not really a runner in economic terms."

Mlinnie 28th Mar 2012 17:05

Why do Arkia Israeli Airlines have a flight between Dublin and Tel Aviv during the summer ? Is it charter or scheduled ?

Mlinnie 28th Mar 2012 17:07

Why is the Dublin-Chisinau flight not direct ?

stab3.5up 28th Mar 2012 19:52

Arkia operates charter flights for isralie nationals holidaying in ireland

Stevek 28th Mar 2012 22:43


Why is the Dublin-Chisinau flight not direct ?
It is on Tuesdays.

stab3.5up 30th Mar 2012 10:06

Cause maybe the market is not there yet for direct serviced.

EI-A330-300 30th Mar 2012 10:38

Most of AIr Moldova's flights are via FRA. Some LGW and CDG flights are.

stab3.5up 30th Mar 2012 11:59

Maybe direct with there ejets when they biuld up the market. depends wot the seat sale split us as well

Mlinnie 30th Mar 2012 15:39

Tel Aviv
 
Ah right and what them charters from Tel Aviv do well ?

stab3.5up 30th Mar 2012 16:44

Its a757300 so yeah it must

Mlinnie 30th Mar 2012 18:45

African Charters
 
Ok thanks for replying :) which airline(s) are operating the charters this year from Dublin to Enfidha, Agadir and Sharm El Sheikh ? Also when do they resume ?

stab3.5up 30th Mar 2012 21:00

Tunisair to enf
tom to ssh for summer amc in winter
aga i havnt a notion. i thought ei did that? but could b wrong.


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