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Fairdealfrank 11th Nov 2013 19:37

international to international transfers in the USA
 

Bags may be transferred, but all passengers need to go through immigration, customs and security.
Doesn't that mean that pax are landside after passing immigration and customs, even if just for a short time?

Anyone know why this procedure has to be followed, not heard of it in any other country?

Kinocker 13th Nov 2013 10:14

Looks like the next part of the Ryanair Irish expansion is being announced with the DAA at Lansdowne Road (rather than the airport) tomorrow.

Stevek 13th Nov 2013 12:15

Must be a big announcement if its in the Aviva?

EI-A330-300 13th Nov 2013 12:38

Stevek

FR already confirmed it was 700,000 pax, should take traffic at DUB next year somewhere between 21.5 to 22 million. Lots of old routes to be resumed.

Stevek 13th Nov 2013 13:09

You were on the money with your post earlier. Hoping for some of the places I never got to go to in the past plus a Greek island or two :ok:

Mlinnie 13th Nov 2013 18:17

Ryanair
 
Did Ryanair ever serve Morocco or Greece from Dublin? What's the chances of a route like that being announced?

EI-A330-300 14th Nov 2013 09:05

9 new routes (well most resumed) to Almeria, Bari, Basel, Bucharest, Chania, Comiso, Lisbon, Marrakesh & Prague.

8 route freq increases.

EI-A330-300 14th Nov 2013 09:38

Birmingham, Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow (PIK), London (STN), Madrid, Manchester and Nice routes will see the increase in flights and improved schedules. 300 to 400 per week.

Ryanair Opens 9 New Dublin Routes From April 2014

LBIA 14th Nov 2013 09:55

Looks like Ryanair are seriously going after Aer Lingus on the Dublin to UK routes.

Will Aer Lingus have to respond to this?

Jack1985 14th Nov 2013 10:43

Pathetic, utterly pathetic. Apparently these new 1m seats will bring loads of new tourism, biggest load of crap ever sold and swallowed AGAIN by the DAA. So is someone really on this forum able to justify how;
  • 24 weekly services can operated profitably to Lisbon next Summer from Dublin?
  • How long 8 weekly services to Bucharest will even last?
  • Justify how 17 weekly services to Prague will operate profitably?
  • And how flooding the UK services with seats which will mean nobody will make profit is frankly seen as competition when the bigger carrier can absorb it to take-out the smaller one who introduced services the bigger carrier cut in the first place.

Sooner MOL and that shower leave Ryanair the better frankly, can't believe we're about to let them commence round 2. Thank god Cork didn't give them what they wanted.

davidjohnson6 14th Nov 2013 10:56

Looking at the FR press release, I notice that every single route frequency is an even number per week. Have FR perhaps counted a round trip as 2x weekly rather than the 1x weekly that is the normal convention ?
As an example, Stansted is described as jumping from 16x to 18x daily. I think that actually means it's going from 8 round trips to 9 round trips per day.

LAX_LHR 14th Nov 2013 11:02


Have FR perhaps counted a round trip as 2x weekly rather than the 1x weekly that is the normal convention ?
I fell foul of this too in my jet-lagged slumber. Yes the press release is written that every '2 weekly' actually means 1 round trip.

Jack1985 14th Nov 2013 11:11


I fell foul of this too in my jet-lagged slumber.
+1 after the night-shift. However I still believe, FR could have found organic growth from Dublin without this predatory style attack to existing services, like where is the inbound tourism from Almeria, Bari, Bucharest, Chania, Comiso, Marrakesh & Prague? More like inbound arrivals and no outbounds from some of those destinations. There's some potential with Basel and Lisbon, the latter most definitely going to be over-capacity for next Summer.

ayroplain 14th Nov 2013 11:20


Pathetic, utterly pathetic. Apparently these new 1m seats will bring loads of new tourism, biggest load of crap ever sold and swallowed AGAIN by the DAA. So is someone really on this forum able to justify how;

24 weekly services can operated profitably to Lisbon next Summer from Dublin?
How long 8 weekly services to Bucharest will even last?
Justify how 17 weekly services to Prague will operate profitably?
And how flooding the UK services with seats which will mean nobody will make profit is frankly seen as competition when the bigger carrier can absorb it to take-out the smaller one who introduced services the bigger carrier cut in the first place.

Sooner MOL and that shower leave Ryanair the better frankly, can't believe we're about to let them commence round 2. Thank god Cork didn't give them what they wanted.
Ouch! MOL must be quaking in his boots, LOL. I'm always amused by the number of posters here who believe they are better airline CEO's than the current incumbents. Methinks, a few shades of green at work here;).

EI-A330-300 14th Nov 2013 15:47

According to the news 3 extra aircraft being based, brining it back up to 21 aircraft. Not sure if that was the peak amount in 2007/8?

Agree with the comments about the routes but Chania and Bari are good ones to have, little service already and of course Marrakesh actually starting after FR wanted to bend the rules in 2008 when they planned to start it.

EI-BUD 14th Nov 2013 21:19



a few shades of green at work here
Maybe so. You have to hand it to Ryanair how it is defending its patch, and so good how AerLingus put it up to them. Increasing MAN, BHX, BRS, EDI and GLA and operating on other routes like LIS just shows how Ryanair continue to target Aer Lingus market share, all dressed up as driving tourism.

AerLingus is significantly differentiated to withstand this competition. EIR passenger numbers totally eclipse FR in Glasgow/ Dublin market and many other European routes. Nice to see them one catch up with Aer Lingus in this market

Come on AerLingus launch a DUB LTN route to link in with USA routes, 319 would be ideal equipment. Passengers in north west London area could select from DUB LHR or LTN on the same booking.

It is the thinner UK Dublin routes that FR will find it tougher, NCL is an example and no wonder no increase in frequency on this route by FR.

EI-BUD

Skipness One Echo 14th Nov 2013 23:24


EIR passenger numbers totally eclipse FR in Glasgow/ Dublin market and many other European routes. Nice to see them one catch up with Aer Lingus in this market
Well mainly because FR consolidated on an aircraft type that was useless for a competitve frequency and bled market share. Mind you, the upside elsewhere worked out better.

easydan319 15th Nov 2013 12:12

Canadian airline WestJet has just announced Dublin daily starting next June (seasonal service) from St. John's (same plane starts in Toronto)

WJ16 23:15 - 07:00 (YYT - DUB)
WJ17 08:20 - 09:55 (DUB - YYT) then onto Toronto

Using 737-700s

EI-A330-300 15th Nov 2013 20:47

Just after reading the daa press release for Westjet and came across this,


The new routes and expansions for next year already announced by customers such as WestJet, Ryanair, Aer Lingus, Norwegian and Air Canada Rouge will continue and strengthen our recent growth phase.
Latest News > Dublin Airport Welcomes New Daily Service to Newfoundland

Now Norwegian have no increase in flights so has the CEO let something slip or just a general mistake in the release. What could of could not be planned?

Una Due Tfc 15th Nov 2013 23:11

I have always wanted to see Newfoundland. hope they do well out of this


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