The bottom line is. Bfs have to take legal action to force people to use the airport!

Dog that is the biggest load of bolleaux you have EVER posted.

announcements should be made soon :)

Is it true that there was a massive fall out between the BFS bosses and the Ezy bosses very recently?

As for fokker aircraft in BHD, remember Air Berlin with theirs? Anyway they arent as noisy as a 125 taking off

must admit, thats the worst post to date (on your current name) mr dog..:{

flying officer kite, i think there was a lovers tiff within the last 6 months but all was sorted again.. unless theres been a more recent one which i doubt with LTN returning and MAN starting

Ok then. tiggs and the wise one. why then? why is BFS going to the bother of a court case. its a lot of money.

Probably because the judge who lifted the cap got a backhander from his old buddy Mr Ambrose.

i love how you dont mention/question the other poster who called your post a load of "bolleaux"

its not just BFS who is the one taking them to court, as far as im aware the residents group is also in on it.. theres certain bits that need cleaned up, as mutley said there was probably some sort of special deal with a judge that happened... not that it matters if the cap is brought back or not, BHD has breached it before, just as the night-time curfew yet nothing is done... people will still use BFS even if the cap is lifted for good, not everyone lives in Belfast or finds BHD conveniant, think some people find that hard to believe on here though

Quote: 'Probably because the judge who lifted the cap got a backhander from his old buddy Mr Ambrose.'

Well whilst in potentially slanderous waters, my understanding was that one of the legals for BFS started it off, but thats only a chinese whisper really. As for the East Belfast residents group, ive met the Dr in charge of it, to be frank shes a nut case, she said she ultimately wanted the City Airport to not be there.

As for runway extensions, are Ryanair's engines not de-rated? This is why they need an extension for Europe, whilst TCX-Belgium, Air Dolomiti, Flybe etc can all do Europe with runway to spare. The TCX route to Reus this summer has been changed to an A321, because the 757 would use up 2 precious stands at BHD, so they must be confident that one of them can make it in and out. Anyone remember the hole gouged out of the runway by a BD 321 nose gear?

BFS is a business ultimately, and have shareholders to answer to. Therefore if BFS think that BHD are in breach of their planning agreement or the planning contract has been changed unjustly, of course they will get involved. I'm sure the shareholder would expect nothing less. I'm sure they have got legal advice on this, to see if there is a case to answer, and are they likely to win, before spending scarce money.

However, in saying that, if the decision comes back that the passenger cap was legally lifted, and BHD / the judge was completely above board, then Aldergrove will just have to accept that result.

tiggs bolleaux is not in my dixshaunairy!

Dog

You are such a wag.....you know precisely why there would be an objection to expansion from the harbour.

BFS has a perfect right to object when a competitor has allegedly broken the terms of its licence.

I have said many times that there is a place for the city airport BUT to constantly attempt to be the SOLE airport for the greater Belfast area will result in a degradation of choice and service for the travelling public and misery for the residents of East Belfast. (The city remained open until MIDNIGHT to accommodate Baby the other week)

The smokescreen put up by management at the harbour which effectively claimed there would be no european services unless and until there was a runway extension was nothing short of an attempt to capture the entire market to and from NI.This is unhealthy,uncompetitive and should not be permitted to proceed.

I wonder if you can point to any other region in Europe which has a similar population with competing airports Twelve miles apart?


PS For Bolleaux read BOLLOCKS

Dog,I think its french for bollocks.You know the stuff you talk loads off.

Ok everyone, lest we forget that this thread is not about Dog in the Park or the word for B*****KS in French.

Back to the thread everyone!

Cheers Northern,very well said.Eastern,couldent agree more with your post.These people are very short sighted and if they(BHD Management) and their supporters had their way we would end up with a facility that could never serve the needs of the travelling public in the 21st century.Isnt it just as well that the majority of people use the premier gateway to and from the whole of the north,BFS.

Would appear that Thomas Cook are not to reintroduce Cancun or the Dominican Republic for summer 2012, and no planned direct Florida flights. Infact TCX only plan to operate Sanford from LGW, MAN and GLA with Gatwick only X1 week, summer 2012!!!

In the 90's it seemed that every hole in the hedge in the UK had direct Florida flights. Do we all use CO and VS these days (and EI from DUB for us Northern Irish)???

Thomas Cook, Direct Hoildays, Falcon etc have dropped BFS - SSH for winter 2011/12.

BFS101,

You're right, we all go VS/CO/EI...all of which are great in their own way, but nothing would be as good as going BFS-MCO direct (or SFB). I've said on here before, I reckon we could sustain (at least in summer) a based widebody to serve JFK / YYZ / MCO. We just need someone (VS with a shiny new 787 maybe) to try it...

Long Haul at BFS
 

Regarding a based widebody to do JFK, Toronto and Orlando, that suggests at least 6 rotations - 2 rotations per week to each. If Zoon could not make Toronto work (and that was before Air Transat built up its presence at Dublin) and if Globespan could not make Orlando work (and the charters have struggled with it) and if the tax is putting Continental/United as at disadvantage and if EI gave up BFS - Shannon - JFK with a change at Shannon to Boston and as the road to Dublin is quicker now and US immigration is quick at Dublin and as Dublin as summer links to Toronto, Boston, JFK, Newark, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando and Chicago why would anyone consider a BFS route?

What is missing from the island of Ireland is the US West Coast but maybe when the B787 or A350 comes on stream it will be viable

Also DUB - Montreal.

Although its a loss that routes are being dropped, usually when airlines drop a route they start a new one too test. i think this will be the case with TCX. I don't mean long-haul , but maybe in the future. Just remember we have to new airlines starting at BFS this year Monarch and Olympic Airlines. Maybe these guys will add routes