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ards_boy 9th Dec 2010 23:11

Could do with another management buy out!

Jamie2k9 13th Dec 2010 23:40

Aer Lingus announce new flights between Dublin and Turkey (Izmir) from May 4 2011.

Kavs8 14th Dec 2010 10:07

Wrong forum i suspect....

Aaron9890 16th Dec 2010 13:20

Over on the BHD forums BMI baby announced flights to Stansted, what do we have on this forum? nothing! For being an international airport it is disappointing that new routes aren't being announced. Still waiting for news on MAD from EZY doesn't seem like its going to happen

tigger2k8 16th Dec 2010 13:32

To be honest we will probably not hear anything from BFS with new routes until its cleared with the spanish, and that's a lengthly process and also the fact that Abertis has cut funding for route development doesn't help, unlike BHD who can arrange and setup within a month with new routes due to a more powerful local management

a quick update on 2 things from recently...

EZY have now said that BFS-MLA will work with an A319 with a full load, however the number of infants/babies may cause issues... Could be minor disruption with bags not travelling, but nothing as bad as they originally thought (capping flights at 120/130 PAX).. Strong headwinds or bad weather could however cause fuel diversions.

To the person who asked about the impact of WW moving to BHD on handling staff it has emerged that Servisair staff will have to reapply for their jobs

Husky One 16th Dec 2010 18:57

Malta will only work with a full load on a 68T airframe - which in Easyjet are like rocking horse sh*t. Even then they might have to offload the odd bag. Given that last summer they couldn't even manage a PMI with any certainty due to the deployment of 64T aircraft I'd say there is trouble ahead. That makes the assumption that anybody actually wants to go to Malta though.

gate 22 16th Dec 2010 19:50

Malta and Iceland what a great year 2011 is going to be

victoria73 16th Dec 2010 20:54

victoria73
 
The only reason why Bmibaby moved there operation o Bhd was because of the deal they got to land free basically Bhd are paying them to be there its also the only reason why Ryr was there as well all the airlines that have went to Bhd went for just one reason and thats free landing.when an airport goes to that lenght then it has problems short fixed subsudies are not the answer.Bfs has lost some routes all airports lose routes and get knew ones thats the way it goes but you dont see them begging airlines offfering free deels to get them to land at there airport.what would have happened if Bmi had of moved all there operation to aldergrove you would have had nothing and went with your begging hat in hand to Ezy and Fly be who they have now rubbed ther noses in it with there scheming once Baby starts paying there way you will see a different airline the germans wont keep throwing money on something that really is useless.

Timed~Out 16th Dec 2010 21:12

victoria73 - I can only assume you are in senior management going by the amount of crap you spout? Either that or still in primary school perhaps?:confused:

Rinty 16th Dec 2010 21:21

Timed~Out - agreed

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Facelookbovvered 16th Dec 2010 21:23

victoria73
 
I doubt very much that BHD are giving baby a free ride, i suspect that the Germans wanted to get their operations under one roof just has they have at EDI,GLA & MAN.

As for been useless, I'm not sure where your coming from on that front, they are still here and all the signs are that they are getting their ducks in a line.

If you are upset for BFS then fair enough,but airlines have to make a choice just as passengers can, BHD will never replace BFS and the planning restrictions prevent wide body aircraft even if the runway was long enough or future aircraft could get off it, so it will remain the international airport.

I suspect that it will become a full time base for baby in due course if only to reduce night stop costs.

I say good on them, we need more not less airlines and baby/bmi will be a better partner than Ryanair for BHD

tigger2k8 17th Dec 2010 11:52

Free fee's, I doubt it, heavily discounted compared to BFS, yes. Its easier to operate under 1 roof, as anytime a bmibaby went tech at BFS they had to bring in an engineer from BHD... There was a time not long ago when BMI was wanting to move its LHR to BFS..

The snow has been crazy at BFS, worst snow I have seen in a long time, was sitting in the DHL last night, airport said 45mins to clear the freight apron, as soon as they cleared one lane it was white 5 minutes later... How they got the runway cleared enough for the LGW and NCL to take off round midnight I don't know, but well done... 1 EZY turnaround cancelled, AMS diverted to MAN and the 2 EIs went to DUB

victoria73 17th Dec 2010 13:49

victoria73
 
tigger can you see anything new being annouced from Bfs anytime soon.Heard from someone who works for serviceair of a possible announcement Toronto next year.The snow was bad the runway was completly clear at 6pm seems the white star was lucky getting away at after 6.

tigger2k8 17th Dec 2010 15:00

Victoria, its all rumors to be honest, but with the cuts to the route development scheme I wouldn't count on much, still early yet.

All EZY cancelled, some EI operating from DUB, TCX operating from DUB and WW no decision yet, with more snow on the way...

Jamie2k9 18th Dec 2010 22:07

Do Travel Service/Smartwings still operate chartered flights out of BFS.

david1994 18th Dec 2010 23:13

Smart Wings are operating Tenerife again next summer :ok:

Jamie2k9 18th Dec 2010 23:17

Is that all?

tigger2k8 19th Dec 2010 01:06

2 BE's + 1 MANX2 sitting in BFS from BHD.. almost a 777 (not sure where this ended up going) and a BA 747 diverted in, as BFS was the only airport their diversion fuel would allow by the time they reached the UK that was open and had the runway and space, although they had enough to divert to Reykjavik (RKV) and went there instead..

flying officer kite 19th Dec 2010 10:02

would be nice to see some widebodies at BFS again, and Tigger, i think you mean KEF, not RKV (it only has runways upto 5000ft)


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