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ryand36 29th Apr 2009 05:48

Stansted
 
Hey

Does anyone know if easyjet have any plans to expand its operaiton at STN?

easyboy22 29th Apr 2009 11:08

Does anyone know if the Man Athens service is going to run through the
winter, says on website winter routes on sale for athens but cant book past end of oct.

cesare.caldi 4th May 2009 21:11

On sale now all winter flight except LGW and MXP base.

apaul 4th May 2009 21:52

Easyjet have been expanding at Gatwick rather than Stansted (or Luton). I expect they'll continue that policy.

Seat62K 5th May 2009 13:48

Is this because easyJet is afraid of Ryanair? There's no escape! (For example, I see Ryanair is starting Gatwick-Madrid services and is bound to take passengers from easyJet and Air Comet rather than from BA.)

jettesen 5th May 2009 14:09

Ryanair from LGW - MAD is hardly likely to effect EZY that much as they operate 3 times daily service which runs at 97% load factor, whereas FR will operate a once daily service with poor flight times.


INV will not be dropped from LGW and it has been a year round service from both LTN and LGW for over 7 years now.

easyboy22 5th May 2009 15:38

cesare.caldi You cant book Athens past 4th nov, is it going to be a winter route.

dancav 5th May 2009 16:41

Which extra aircraft is coming to Man to cover the extra flights (incl Athens) this month?

toledoashley 5th May 2009 19:06

Do EZY have a new booking interface, saw it quickly at work, but at home im just getting the old look site. The main page looks the same, but the page after encorperates both the flight schedule and the added services on one page with a larger amount of bright orange!!!

dwlpl 5th May 2009 20:59

The page has a border of hearts with 'easyJet summer love' written on them.

toledoashley 6th May 2009 06:59

Im talking about the page after the main page, where the schedule comes up with pricing.

Whiskey Papa 6th May 2009 07:44

EasyJet losses double to £M130
 
Depressing sign of the times, however EJ board are upbeat!

BBC NEWS | Business | Easyjet losses more than double

WP

racedo 6th May 2009 13:49

Easyjet April numbers

2008 3,553,023
2009 3,772,582

A 6.3 % increase

Load Factor

2008 80.0%
2009 84.2%

A 4.2% increase

Seljuk22 6th May 2009 13:49

April

Passengers: 3,776,582 +6.3%
Load Factor: 84.2% +4.2pp

luvly jubbly 6th May 2009 13:59

Could the increase in seat sales be extra pax from the purchase of GB Airways?

davidjohnson6 6th May 2009 14:16

WhiskeyPapa - there is a reason behind the large increase in loss which should be short-term rather than a long-term problem.

Just before crude oil hit its peak of US$147 per barrel, everyone was panicking that crude might hit US$250 or even higher. Easyjet decided to substantially hedge their future fuel needs at the price then available in the market, preferring to avoid the risk of fuel going much higher.

Shortly after EZY completed the fuel hedge, Lehman went bust, people suddenly took the recession seriously, the price of jet fuel plummeted by about 75% and airlines were able to purchase jet fuel at a much lower price. You could think of this as being similiar to someone who bought a house in late 2007 just before the economy went horribly wrong and who now has a big dose of negative equity.

Because EZY are now committed to paying the original higher price for fuel, it has to be recognised in the accounts as a loss, thus making the latest results look a bit cr*p.

No, this is not good for EZY, but this is a one-off accident, rather than a serious multi-year concern for the company.

h&s 6th May 2009 18:02

yes hedging and easter swift probably one-off accident, but the increase in cost even excl. fuel is quite a bad news, especially considering the gap with Ryanair was already big and the fact that Ryanair costs will probably go down again at last FY report (excl. fuel)
This is a very bad news and may proove an inability of the management to be as good as Ryanair in the cost cutting part of the business, which is the core part of LCC...

I remember they close DTM for crew efficiency, and they just declared that crew efficiency didn't improved! so why did they close DTM if it had no effect???
Even the redundancies didn't have any effect on costs! that's shocking!

Seat62K 6th May 2009 18:07

"Jettesen",

You say that Ryanair's entry on the Madrid-London route is "hardly likely to effect EZY that much". I'd agree with you if we were in favourable economic times and the market was growing. Ryanair might be scheduling only one flight daily in each direction (albeit with 189 seats to fill) but exactly where will their passengers come from except mainly from the existing "low cost" operators?

I predict that easyJet will be unable (or unwilling) to match Ryanair's fares. Given the dire state of the Spanish economy I can see Ryanair being the winner and easyJet the loser. Who would turn their nose up at a return fare of 12.4 euros (or £11 if starting in London) before optional charges? Not me! I'd be daft to fly easyJet.

The schedules look unattractive from some UK passengers' point of view but remember that a midnight arrival into Barajas is not seen in the same way by the Spanish (I think last departures on the Madrid metro, including from Barajas, are around 1.30am) and that an 8pm departure from London will be attractive to those who can only travel after work.

Ryanair may only be scheduling one flight a day right now but don't be surprised if the frequency is increased. This is precisely what happened, for example, on the Stansted-Alicante route. I know this route very well and have switched from easyJet (which inherited me from Go) for most of my trips simply because Ryanair offers better value (plus better punctuality and a much more civilized boarding "experience", especially at Stansted).

Ryanair's entry on the Madrid-Gatwick route will definitely hurt easyJet.

h&s 6th May 2009 18:15

the schedule is bad but of course it will hurt easyJet. 4 or 5 seats of a plane on average make the profit of a flight, so there is no doubt Ryanair will grab a minimum of 2 easyJet PAX per flight, so easyJet profitability will be probably hugely hurt no doubt about that
I assume there is space anyway for both airlines to share this market and be profitable on it, even if easyJet performances will drop year-over-year

cesare.caldi 7th May 2009 11:26

On sale now LGW winter flights

anna_list 7th May 2009 11:53

Lgw W09/10
 
According to the easyJet press release, LGW to ZRH and VIE increase to twice daily and LGW to MUC goes to 3 daily.

Ouch. Anyone would think they were targetting Aer Lingus ....

easyboy22 7th May 2009 11:58

Just the normal flights for the winter at man, flights for 2 A/C if the 3rd

A/C is staying for the winter when will they go on sale as the others already are.

Will there be new routes if the 3rd A/C stays

jabird 7th May 2009 13:35

"Ryanair may only be scheduling one flight a day right now but don't be surprised if the frequency is increased."

They have been adding a lot of new routes at 2-3 times per week, so going daily into a crowded market (Air Europa also new here as of end April) shows they mean business. But FR are never likely to want to match U2 on frequency - take a look at STN-PIK, where they used to operate upto 9 rotations, and they now just offer 3. This isn't all down to switching between the '200s & '800s. Now compare that to U2's offering from LGW, LTN or STN to GLA. High frequency might attract some business pax from legacy airlines, but I don't think those are the people FR are targetting, and not at those times. So for FR, high frequency just means lower yields from the leisure market, whereas pinching a few of U2's passengers means easy pickings.

Sark 7th May 2009 21:42

We have just booked our family Christmas flights to TFS. Price just over double those we paid last year, booked on day one too! Looks like Easy have done their homework and see that these routes can be money spinners.

racedo 8th May 2009 16:00

Easyjet adding flights from LGW to CIA in late May for Champions League final.

Seljuk22 8th May 2009 17:25

Increasing frequencies:
LGW-CGN double daily and LTN-DTM trice daily from winter.

virginblue 8th May 2009 18:36

Hear hear. If it is just a coincidence that Flybe is launching DUS from LGW which is 40 miles from both CGN and DTM? Me thinks not. Both DTM and CGN had thrice daily flights in the past....

ptr120 9th May 2009 17:52

LGW - CGN has never been thrice daily with Easyjet. 2 x day is the most it has been. Germanwings dipped in and then out of this route at one point too.

Sam Chipperfield 10th May 2009 09:18

Ezy Ncl
 
I just been on Newcastle monthly timetable it says supposed 2 b from May:

737-700 3 based

A319-100 3 based

jettesen 10th May 2009 22:28

SEAT 62K

In response to your cheap as chips ryanair flight to madrid from LGW, have a look at a date for ryanair and the same date for EZY and i guarantee you that after all the charges, EZY will come out cheaper for that day.


Jul 25th - Jul 28th

EZY flight cost of flight ( before any charges ) £78.98

after charges ( including 1 bag, airport check in debit card charges etc ) £77.83

FR Flight cost ( before charges) £31.73

after charges ( including 1 bag, airport check in , debit card charges etc)
£81.73

£40 to checkin with ryanair!!!!!

PPRuNe Pop 11th May 2009 11:46

A few posts with unnecessary abuse have been deleted.

One of you came close to a ban. Anymore of it and you will be banned.

AA&R Mods

Seljuk22 11th May 2009 13:25

MAD-LIS will become trice daily (now double daily) from November with morning flights from MAD and LIS. Therefore one a/c is over night at LIS.

davidjohnson6 11th May 2009 21:50

I've spent quite a bit of time scanning fares over the last few days out of London for the period winter 2009/2010, and comparing them to fares over the last 24 months.

EZY seem to be rather less than generous on many of their winter routes given that for EZY the time immediately after fares go on sale usually shows the cheapest fares. Then again, there may be a planned fare sale to get winter bookings going.properly.

Ridiculously cheap fares from EZY in November and January for sectors of around 2 hours seem to be rather rarer than I had initially hoped. Guess this just reflects a change in emphasis of customer away from the bargain bin brigade.

Is EZY veering towards having a few minimal frills (with associated costs) ?

racedo 11th May 2009 23:10

David

I think Easyjet is going for income above passenger numbers as it has fuel hedged pretty highly. Its working on basis that people who can afford it will still afford it and those who can't won't travel.

The Flying Cokeman 12th May 2009 03:42

racedo,

EZY hasn't fuel hedged for the whole year. The fuel hedging is stopping at some point this month thereby cheaper fuel for the rest of the year provided it doesnt rise like crazy as we've seen before.

parky747 12th May 2009 07:42

Any chance that a MAD based unit may restore a link to MAN?

nonemmet 12th May 2009 10:04

Cokeman,

The spin occording to our mangement when oil was $150/barrel was that they hedge fuel on a continuous basis 'in order to smooth the price':confused:. However if they have stoped hedging now that oil is $50/barrel then that would be par for the course:ugh:

The Flying Cokeman 12th May 2009 11:08

They hedged 60 % of the 2008/09 financial year requirement for fuel and therefore hedging is stopping this month if it hasn't already done so. I have heard no news of EZY hedging and I don't think any airlines are doing new hedgings at the moment but waiting to see what's gonna happen with the crude oil prices. The price for crudeoil is unfortunately going up slowly but surely everyday now passing $59.06 this morning.

Charlie Roy 12th May 2009 11:41


The price for crudeoil is unfortunately going up slowly but surely everyday now passing $59.06 this morning.
Fortunately Sterling, the Euro and the Swiss Franc (Easyjet's principal currencies) have in the same period all been getting stronger against the US Dollar ;)

The Flying Cokeman 12th May 2009 13:57

The sterling might have gone up slightly the last 2 months but nothing compared to what it was 1.5 years ago. Besides worth mentioning that EZY has for this calender year "hedged" around 80% of their dollars need at £1.00 to $1.98 :ok: For once they did something right.
I seem to remember 70 % for the Euro to around £1.00 to € 1.57 or there abouts.


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