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jabird 18th Jun 2012 13:48


Why are Norwegian classed as a LOCO? Having checked fares recently they appear almost on par with SK on some routes. The other half also interested in flying to Tromso Feb next year to get the Northern Lights "experience". I am somewhat overcome with the fares with both Norwegian and SK fo such delights.
You as a customer are demanding a flight connection on a thin route, which due to the relative lack of demand was not able to sustain itself from the UK.

You will therefore be taking a connecting flight - a service many other low cost airlines do not provide.

You are asking for low cost on a route which is inherently high cost, and I'm afraid neither Norwegian, nor any other airline could deliver that.

I have also looked at prices for LGW-OSL v FR STN-TRF or RYG, and by the time you add on Ryanair's extras + cost of getting to city (even if you don't value your time), there was very little in it. Also, Norwegian are one of the few airlines not to charge you a debit card handling fee.

davidjohnson6 12th Oct 2012 16:58

(Some of ) Summer 2013 seems to be on sale now

Shed-on-a-Pole 12th Oct 2012 22:18

Why are Norwegian classed as a LOCO?

This is because the term 'Low Cost [Airline]' refers to the cost element of the corporate balance sheet. It is NOT a reference to the fare structure.

Having a low cost base offers an airline the flexibility (but not the obligation) to sustain low fares. However, as businesses driven by the profit motive, such carriers will use revenue management strategies to maximise profits (from tariffs) just as any other carrier would do.

The frequently noted public belief that 'low cost carriers' by definition always offer low fares is probably the most widespread misconception in the airline industry. Tell your friends and family to check all fares offered on a desired route when booking flights; never assume that the 'LOCO' will be offering the cheapest deal to the customer.

Ernest Lanc's 12th Oct 2012 22:41


Originally Posted by jabird
Also, Norwegian are one of the few airlines not to charge you a debit card handling fee.

12 airlines agree to scrap last-minute debit card fees after OFT investigation | Business | guardian.co.uk

On that specific point of your post: even FR have agreed not to charge a debit card handling fee.

davidjohnson6 12th Oct 2012 23:51

I find it remarkable how a partly off topic discussion can go quiet for 4 months, and people then feel the sudden need to resume the old discussion immediately...

CabinCrewe 13th Oct 2012 11:00

Doesn't appear to be off topic and was quite interesting. If not interested, you can simply ignore.

Shed-on-a-Pole 13th Oct 2012 17:30

davidjohnson6 -

From your posting I can only presume that you consider me the person who "felt the sudden need to resume the old discussion immediately". The truth is much more straightforward than that. Until you pointed it out I hadn't spotted that the posting two before my own dated back to June. Sorry about that.

However, if the subject matter remains pertinent, should that elapsed time matter anyway? Is there a time-limit for valid contributions to debate on this thread and do you feel the sudden need to arbitrate on this?

On discussion boards we learn from discussion, not from comatose threads.

davidjohnson6 13th Oct 2012 18:03

Arbitrate ? Definitely not - apologies if it seemed like that
Point out something that I find surprising ? Yes

Discussion as to what does or does not constitute a LCC is most definitely valid along with the general hybridisation of other carriers, but in my opinion is probably best discussed on a more general thread rather than just within the confines of Norwegian...

crewmeal 14th Oct 2012 06:12

Congratulations to the ex BMIbaby pilots who are passing through NAS. I hope you have a great career with them. Good luck!

j636 25th Oct 2012 08:50

New base at London Gatwick planned with 3 B737-800 aircarft. A base at ALC also not sure on number of aircraft there.

LN-KGL 26th Oct 2012 19:50

Norwegian starts to fly twice weekly SVG-MAN-SVG on 1 April 2013

Seljuk22 27th Oct 2012 13:15


The Alicante base will – in addition to already established bases at Malaga and Las Palmas – serve an important part of Norwegian’s Spanish traffic.
Newsdesk - Norwegian

Are these 'real' bases at AGP and LPA with based a/c and crew or just a night stop doing some w-pattern?

Tom the Tenor 27th Oct 2012 13:27

May I ask for a quick reminder where SVG is, please?

Thanks.

chaps2011 27th Oct 2012 13:37

SVG is Stavanger
Check all your IATA codes here
Welcome to World Airport Codes


Chaps

Tom the Tenor 27th Oct 2012 13:50

Thanks for the info, gentleman. On my bad days when I cant remember anything at all I can get as far as ORK and it's all downhill after that!

Is it Norweigan's intention to keep on with their 737-300s for the foreseeable future or are they due to be dropped as some for new 737s/A320s come due for delivery?

Thanks, again. :)

chaps2011 27th Oct 2012 14:38

LN-KGL is the man to tell you about the fleet as I know he has posted somewhere recently with a list of inbound and departures for the fleet incl
B787
Over to you LN-KGL

Chaps

LN-KGL 27th Oct 2012 15:32

According to the latest information from Norwegian (info given in the Q3 result presentation) this is the fleet plan the next years. Let's first start with the status at the end of 2011
16x Boeing 737-30 and 46x Boeng 737-800
And here is the fleet size the next years (year end numbers):
2012 = 10x Boeing 737-300 and 58x Boeng 737-800
2013 = 9x Boeing 737-300, 68x Boeng 737-800 and 3x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
2014 = 5x Boeing 737-300, 79x Boeng 737-800 and 7x Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
The lease of a number B733 has been extended since they can't get enough B738 fast enough from Boeing.

The recent news about SAS being in really deep **** can lead to a total turn around to the above mentioned fleet plan. I guess there is a Norwegian Air Shuttle manual on the shelf named "In case SAS goes bankrupt", and we may see Norwegian trying to hoover the B737 market.

GnRdL 27th Oct 2012 16:22


Originally Posted by Seljuk22
Are these 'real' bases at AGP and LPA with based a/c and crew or just a night stop doing some w-pattern?

Yes, AGP and LPA are confirmed bases from this winter season. LPA: 2 aircrafts (seasonal base?); AGP: 1 aircraft. ALC has a night stop during the winter season and it will be base from next summer season.

Stevek 27th Oct 2012 16:50

Is there a break down available of the B738 Sky Interior/old style?

LN-KGL 27th Oct 2012 17:49

It will be easiest to point out aircraft without Sky Interior now

LN-DY_ - LN-DYA, LN-DYB, LN-DYC, LN-DYD and LN-DYE (LN-DYF was the first aircraft with Sky Interior in the Norwegian fleet)
LN-NO_ - all except LN-NOY and LN-NOZ


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