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AUTOGLIDE 3rd Jun 2009 11:20

I flew Emirates when they were originally in T1, and it wasn't a good experience, massively cramped and hot at boarding. The gate areas in T1 are too small to deal with large aircraft, including those at the end of pier C. Terminal 2 has a greater feeling of space in that respect.
At some point T1 is going to have to give, it is (along with FRA T1 and most of LHR) is old and horrible to use, though the recent refitment work has helped. The world is moving on.

flyinthesky 3rd Jun 2009 12:04

Whatever 'grand' plan they have cooked up next, will be the same hotpotch of squeezing a quart into a pint pot. It hasn't worked yet and it never will. But they'll stick more billboards up extolling their links/ connections and keep telling everyone they are the worlds favourite. 'My A**E', you only need to take a stroll around the wonderfully airy YVR airport to compare how it should be done.

But we'd better hope for a dry summer otherwise I'm buying shares in a local bucket producer, since the airport cannot even seal out the elements.

All in all shambolic, if I didn't need to work out of here, I'd be out like a shot. But hey, they must make a mint from the viewing park. Now that's REALLY important, compared to flight safety!

Skipness One Echo 3rd Jun 2009 12:23

They CANNOT win this one. They are in the same boat as everyone else. Imagine the response if they raised charges and unveiled a new Terminal built from scratch that would be a fantastic travel experience.

MOL would condemn it as a "Taj Mahal terminal" for a "bygone age". easyJet would kill expansion plans and continue to build at Liverpool. As the main growth drivers are the locos at the moment, and the public travels with them, then it's the public that is to blame. Simple as, and I am not excusing myself!

I want a new terminal!
Pay for it?
F*** off and don't be silly !

Toronto Pearson has a very nice new terminal, but it's one of the priciest airports on Earth. Look at the dogs abuse DUB are getting after the long awaited new terminal is nearing completion. You get what you pay for. Are we willing to pay more? No. This gripe will run and run and run, until there is some form of major market re-alignment.

TechProblem 3rd Jun 2009 12:41

T1 has been re-devloped, although it isnt any bigger, it does look alot better.
As SOE says, there not going to pull the whole place down and re-start, but B-pier will be knocked down and re-built, all to accomadate the A380 on stand 12.

Hence all the work to the taxi way and fueling system down that end of the pier for the last year or so.

I dont know when its going to happen, and im told a T2 airside link need to be built b4 B-pier is demolished. But im told it will be, as you all know B-pier is not good enough to handle 1 A380 + Monarch, Jet2, Lufftie and Tommy Cook.

Once the Taxi way work is complete, we wil have to see what happens next. :rolleyes:

roverman 3rd Jun 2009 15:29

Lots of speculation here about A380 and B Pier. The horses mouth has more on this and other developments.....

MAG World - Welcome to Airfield Operations on MAGWorld! then click on 'Airfield Developments'

flyinthesky 3rd Jun 2009 17:15

Has anyone got even the faintest idea that pier B could actually handle an A380. This is so much pie in the sky as to be unbelievable. Publicity at its finest. Concentrate on what you've got, not what you think you might like to see. Sod the 380, get the basics right first. MAN WILL NEVER get more than one per day if it's really lucky!!!!!

Meanwhile the rest of us taxi onto stands using a mirror and a blackboard/ fluorescent tube. For the non aviation amongst us, that means real angst in the last few metres for the flight deck and a real risk to the airframe. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE IN THE 21st CENTURY!!!

No more posts from me. I've had enough of the dog kennel they call the worlds favourite airport. I think I'd rather work from a third world country.

MUFC_fan 3rd Jun 2009 18:54

I am flying to SSH on 17th Aug from MAN with TOM. I initially thought it was a 757 but according to MAN timetable it is a 767 - could anybody confirm?

Thanks.

StoneyBridge Radar 3rd Jun 2009 19:08


I am flying to SSH on 17th Aug from MAN with TOM. I initially thought it was a 757 but according to MAN timetable it is a 767 - could anybody confirm?
MAN/SSH
MON 13:55 21:30 MON 763 TOM876 weekly 04/05/2009 21/09/2009

SSH/MAN
MON 22:45 02:35 TUE 763 TOM877 weekly 04/05/2009 26/10/2009

Skipness One Echo 3rd Jun 2009 21:54

If Emirates moved T2 to T1 on Mon 1 June 2009, when did they move from T1 to T2?

Thanks!

TSR2 3rd Jun 2009 21:57


I am flying to SSH on 17th Aug from MAN with TOM. I initially thought it was a 757 but according to MAN timetable it is a 767 - could anybody confirm?
Yep, sure is a B763. This weeks rotation was operated by G-OBYF

MUFC_fan 3rd Jun 2009 21:58

Thanks - so it is likely to be a TOM aircraft or are they varying between the two?

If so - which company is best? I have been on the new FCA product 2 years ago and it was fantastic.

aidoair 3rd Jun 2009 22:07

It will be a TOM aircraft, Y328 2-4-2 layout 30" seat pitch. They're comfortable enough, at least for the duration of the Egypt flights. Depending on the actual reg of aircraft you get, you amy get seat back IFE, I beleive G-OBYF is still one that has them fitted from when the seats operated the thomson longhaul plus service flights last year.

:ok:

lasernigel 3rd Jun 2009 22:13


If Emirates moved T2 to T1 on Mon 1 June 2009, when did they move from T1 to T2?
Not sure but they were there when I went on Holiday via Dubai to Bangkok last May(2008).


Why ?

As a user of both terminals I personally have no preference

Sorry I fly a lot and would be more than happy to have scheduled flights from one terminal not sure which one but 2 preferable. Nothing worse than being stuck behind clueless passengers who know nothing about security checks and the airport layout, added to which half incapacititated drunkards who think having a few pints at 0600 in the morning is the norm. Not being 'stuck up' as my US company will only let me fly economy. So why do I have to suffer fools gladly twice/three times a week?

Ringwayman 3rd Jun 2009 22:27

I reckon it around summer 2006 for when EK went T1 to T2. Just trying to find the dates when they went T1 to T3 and T3 to T1 (all I can find is 2001 is when they were at T3)

Skipness One Echo 3rd Jun 2009 23:17

Yes I remember them being in T3 as well. So it's been T1 - T3 - T1 - T2 - T1 ?

Blimey(!)

MANFlyer 4th Jun 2009 10:06


I think you will find there has been more money spent in Manchester since the turn of the millennium than any other city on the planet - that includes Dubai.
I have seen some nonsense on here in recent times, but it all pales compared to this gem, which is saying something when one considers some of the stuff we've seen. What planet do you live on fella, when not residing in cloud cuckoo land ?.

I don't know if anyone has noticed BA are dropping LGW-JFK. Wasn't that route the reason for dropping MAN-JFK....

Envoy320 4th Jun 2009 11:02

BA would probably drop Gatwick altogether if they could move their flights to LHr....especially when they realise LGW is in Surrey, not London...

Is BA the only "national" carrier in the world that bases all of its flights out of just 1 city....

Skipness One Echo 4th Jun 2009 11:27


LGW is in Surrey, not London...
Heathrow is in Middlesex not London. The London airport in London is London City.

Gatwick performs a great service in that it has allowed BA to introduce a new cost base into mainline services, the BA B777 services are crewed by staff who are not on LHR contracts so these costs are way nearer the "going rate". These staff also get the chance to fly both long and short haul, something LHR staff do not allow, reducing flexibility. If LHR does get a runway three, we may see a complete retrenching to one base like Singapore, Cathay or even KLM. On short haul, BA lack the flexibility and cost base to take on easyJet at LGW.

In truth, if BA were operating a hub from MAN into Europe, Ryanair and easyJet would only be pushing them ever closer to insolvency. BA screwed you guys over in the past but whatever happens, the old business model struggled then and is dead now thanks to the locos.

TechProblem 4th Jun 2009 11:31

British Airways to Rename themselves..... London Airways, you heard it here first :ugh::rolleyes:

(Sorry back to the MAN covno...)

TP

StoneyBridge Radar 4th Jun 2009 14:08

The way any MAN thread inevitably ends up castigating British Airways is tiresome and irritating.

Some of you seriously need therapy to help get over it. :mad:


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