Just off at a slight tangent, but seeing as KLM and LPL was brought up in the discussion, the route is unavailable after Oct24th. Staff at MAN are under the impression that the whole winter network schedule has been loaded, so is it going to be a one season wonder?
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KLM are having an official launch of the Liverpool to Amsterdam service at a civic ceremony in Liverpool Town Hall next Monday. The airline will be continuing the service beyond October and are particularly pleased with advanced bookings particularly inbound to Liverpool.
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Manchester - January Traffic
Pax - 1,203,647 down 10.63% (or 143k pax on Jan 08)
Movements - 13,042 down 15.60% (or 2,400 down on Jan 08) Freight - 12,216 down 42.13 % :( |
The airline will be continuing the service beyond October and are particularly pleased with advanced bookings particularly inbound to Liverpool. Regards |
Yes, the official source was from a meeting I attended with KLM officials last week
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easyJet has added Dalaman, Turkey from Manchester. 3 times weekly from 6th Aug.
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Shed
You are missing the point.A spotters 'wisdom' is not used by airlines looking at new services - I hope! If a service exists then it is a success unless it is terminated.Several airlines have tried to operate to Madrid from Manchester and have failed. The only airline in the current climate that might sustain this route would be Easyjet - but they fly from Liverpool. KLM are indeed starting Liverpool / Amsterdam for the very reasons that have been stated.Lets just see how long it lasts........I have heard whispers.... MM |
mickyman,
Several airlines have tried to operate to Madrid from Manchester and have failed. BA (B737)...80% load BA[R] (Ba146).. 80% load IBE (CRJ) .....90% load Even my cat could make a profit with those figures.... A spotters 'wisdom' is not used by airlines looking at new services He is one of the most erudite, professional and knowledgeable people I know..[sorry shed] so I must spring to his defence. watp,iktch |
Quite true, but why did they fail? BA (B737)...80% load BA[R] (Ba146).. 80% load IBE (CRJ) .....90% load Even my cat could make a profit with those figures.... Give your pussy a go and see how far you get.... |
The obvious answer is Easyjet could probably make a god of Madrid from Manchester but wont as they already operate from Liverpool.
Don't shoot me in flames for saying this but at one time I am sure I read somewhere that approaching 50% of the users of LPL came from Greater Manchester |
I was at a presentation before Christmas and they quoted CAA figures that stated that 18% of Liverpool's traffic was from Greater Manchester. they also gave figures for Cheshire, Lancashire, North Wales et al. I will try and dig the figures out and post them here.
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Chiglet re:The shed
'tis a pity he does not translate well onto PPrune then if your description is true - or is he over you in a management position perhaps. I thank the one or two contributors who have backed my comments up. MM |
Let's be optimistic about the LJLA - AMS KLM service mickyman, it takes time to build a new route and this is pretty much unchartered territory for them.:) Very good news today about Maersk moving their UK HQ from London to Liverpool, it is that kind of private sector growth in the region that will help provide the impetus for new routes like this and should also help with MAN's business traffic as well.
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EZY announce MAN-DLM
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Vuelo, this is fantastic news for Manchester things are really looking up.
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I think I heared a wisper that 25% of MAN pasengers came frome liverpool. Rumors are great;)
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More EZY routes to come, from non based a/c.
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Micky,
No shed is NOT management, nor over me, tho' he can get a tiny bit pedantic at times....:ok: |
Is he the sexy guy that runs WW?
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Third LHR runway will prevent regional expansion article
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