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Skipness One Echo 8th Jan 2009 15:48

LCY have the right number of staff in place for the passenger throughput, it's Airports 1-01. BAA Airports have been screamed at by all their airlines for not even bothering their arse to attempt this until forced to recently.

You do NOT have to be airside 2-3 hours before a flight, in 17 years of flying I have never *Had* to be airside more than 35 minutes before departure time and that's with a 30 minute gate closure that was never enforced as the aircraft was never on stand until departute -35.....

It's different for the once a year shellsuits though I guess.

virgin_cc_wannabe 8th Jan 2009 15:57

Yes the shops, bars and restaraunts may be frustrating for regular flyers, but you need to remember one simple fact:

Manchester airport is a business, not a service. If it chooses to make more revenue from facilities such as shops, then it will do.

virgin_cc_wannabe 8th Jan 2009 16:35

Some more stupidity next monday:

Hundreds of anti-aviation protesters are expected to give the government a nasty shock when they return to Parliament after their Winter Recess on Monday 12th January. Protesters from the environmental action group, 'The Climate Rush' will be holding a sit-down picnic at the Departures Gate of Terminal One in Heathrow Airport. The dinner will begin at 7pm sharp and is expected to last several hours. At the same time the Northern Climate Rush will hit Manchester Airport Terminal 3 (Domestic Departures).

chiglet 8th Jan 2009 20:42

Why don't they have their "picnic" outside the Palace of Westminster?
Oh, that would be an act of Terrorism....:ugh: according to Gords ex boss :*

Mister Geezer 8th Jan 2009 22:02


Yes true, however do you want a BAA focus where people are enticed to part with as much money as possible between security and gate or a London City where the brief is to get you on your way with as little fuss and hassle as possible. There is a difference between a noce bar or place to eat and a branch of HMV to part you from your cash.
The only reason LCY is not a shopping centre is due to lack of retail space. In an ideal world they would have you parting with your cash - just like any airport.

MUFC_fan 8th Jan 2009 22:07

Isn't it because mostly business passengers use the airport meaning most will be pushing the 15 minute check in deadline so there will be little amount of people using the facilities in the terminal?

That's what a certain aviation magazine said that did a report recently.....

AUTOGLIDE 9th Jan 2009 09:53

It's not a case of the 'shell suits' turning up hours before a flight and business travellers being right at the last minute. I am a business traveller for my job as well as working at MAN, and often end up at airports a long time due to delays, transfers or simply because business concluded much earlier than the next available flight. That being the case, I like terminals with a lot of shops and restaurants, it gives me something to do and look at whilst I wait, allows me to pick up books, presents or whatever I choose. The airport isn't 'fleecing' me, if I don't want something I don't buy it. I'll take shops over empty boring space any time. If MAN is to become better in that respect brilliant, and then in the summer I might be able to walk more than 20 feet through T2 without a passenger asking me 'Are these the only places to buy food from?' whilst looking at the 300 foot long queue at Burger king and the place next door.

GavinC 9th Jan 2009 12:24

I agree with that. As a business traveller, I give myself 'reasonable' time at the airport in most cases and enjoy a browse of the books and a choice of food. I particularly like the seats in giraffe T1 which have a view of the planes.
Shops are good for passengers so long as there are still enough seats to sit in should you choose, the shops dont make you go on detours you dont want to and you dont have to walk through them should you not want too.
Based on the above, the new location of Duty Free at T1 i dont like but the new food places on the mazzanine level i do like.
Surely its all about choice?

Momentary Lapse 11th Jan 2009 12:47

Shed:

If MAN management don't give themselves bonuses, the money saved could be added to the dividend given to the 10 local authority shareholders, which could be used to reduce council tax increases.

I suspect those dividends will be down again this year, but the bonuses will still given, if not increased.

Any discretionary expenditure could be added to the dividend instead.

That is the point that Roy Hudd was trying to make, imho.

mickyman 11th Jan 2009 14:49

'discretionary expenditure'

What an interesting term that is!!

imho - sic

MM

Momentary Lapse 11th Jan 2009 18:14

Thanks MM. By which I mean money that doesn't have to be spent, yet the company will keep going: mgmt bonuses, gallivanting away days, new company cars etc. rather than say rent, maintenance, snow clearing etc. which have to be paid or else the business stops.

Any discretionary expenditure could be returned to shareholders as extra divident without hurting profits or the business' effectiveness.

So in that sense, the taxpayers of GM are paying mgmt bonuses.

Momentary Lapse 11th Jan 2009 18:41

Fancy a laugh? Re-read Mr Muirhead's growth predictions. They were funny enough a couple of years ago; today they'll make you weep.

House of Commons - Transport - Minutes of Evidence

Secondly, I'd like to share with you a prediction I made a couple of years back.

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post2769962

Sad, but true.

mickyman 11th Jan 2009 18:43

ML 'discretionary expenditure'

by which you mean the normal 'management benefits'
from a successful business?

Goodness knows what clowns would be on the board
at MAplc if they didnt have a package like.............oh
hang on a moment.........sorry just realised my mistake!

MM

Momentary Lapse 11th Jan 2009 19:04

:)

That's what I mean. But as you say, they only apply to successful businesses.

Define "successful" in the context of MAG's performance recently.

Vuelo 12th Jan 2009 14:34

Runour of a FR announcement, linked to Hahn changes??

caro340 12th Jan 2009 15:10

Sorry if I missed this one, but has anyone heard any more about the rumoured return of Air Canada this summer or was it just that?

Trash_Hauler 13th Jan 2009 16:09

Anything CONFIRMED yet on the Jet2 handling contract yet?

1station 13th Jan 2009 19:07

No official announcement yet. Plenty of rumours but no firm evidence. :confused:

Vuelo 13th Jan 2009 19:20

AC won't be back.

TechProblem 13th Jan 2009 21:37


Anything CONFIRMED yet on the Jet2 handling contract yet?
From another Thread, regarding Menzies, Its says that Gate Handling will take over the Jet2 Contract from the 1st March.

Cant see it at the moment, as they dont have anything at Manchester?

Unless someone knows anything more about Gate Handling coming into MAN?


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