It's all irrelevant anyway; weren't we told with 100% certainty that EZY were "pulling the plug" on MAN? :E :} :ugh:

As said before..... when EZY tookover GT they opened MAN with a "no promises" pledge. That situation has now changed and the airline is more than happy with MAN's performance. This has also been signalled by the launch of longer distance routes elsewhere across the network. i.e LTN-PFO. Also, the onboard revenue made by easyjet ex MAN makes the base one of the best performing in that respect.

MAN-SSH isn't saturated and LPL has a very defined catchment area.

Sorry Mr StoneyBridge - apologies for my earlier post. I don't know why I had forgotten that post that told us U2 were doomed at MAN.... :ooh:

Must be old age. I'll go and lie down now

Suzeman

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Seems like an eternity ago.... ;)

Re MAN-SSH, there are alot of deparutures to SSH from MAN, but I don't think any of them are sch'd service's, unless Jet2 operate one.
All depends on how often the flight departs throughtout the week.....

*Edit*
Jet2 do operate one as of Februray every Saturday.

TP

FYI Jet2 is weekly currently on Saturdays, & go up to twice weekly for S10.

With the wind as it is, the aircraft are currently operating on 05.

Does this affect the time when 23R ILS can go back to CAT III?

I believe it was 350 hours service (roughly 2 weeks continous service) on CAT I before CAT III could be re-introduced... For every hour that the aircraft are using 05, does that need to be added on to that 350 hours from last Wednesday?

The charters also sell a number of seats on flight only.

The MAN-SSH route is far from saturated! The airlines are using wide bodied aircraft and they are still flying full year round - simply because it is priced fantastically and it is much cheaper than dealing with the Euro.

Further distance (trust me, people think flying further makes the holiday seem more expensive!), better weather, cheaper prices, year round sun - win, win, win, win.

Wasn't it the year round sun that made the Canaries what they are today?

Also, LPL, as mentioned earlier, has nowhere near the demand that MAN has, whatever anyone says. U2 may seem to be adding to already proven routes, but we aren't in a time of prosperity - U2 have the customer base, price advantage so can compete with already settled carriers on routes already established instead of spending money on creating new traffic.

I'm sure MAN-SSH will be one of U2's most profitable routes on it's network - we northerners LOVE to spend money onboard!:ok: (If anyone saw the old Airline episodes with Brittania, they may have seen the rather camp, yet fantastic cabin service manager explain that southerners will try and save as much money on a flight home whereas us northerners want to spend spend spend - probably what makes MAN a favourite with the airlines!)

Easyjet Manchester-Ivalo charter for chrimbo!

Something of a sweeping statement don't you think MUFC Fan? Using that sort of 'logic' I could argue there is no demand between Manchester and Poland, Madrid, Rome and any other of the routes currently not served from Manchester, which obviously would be nonsense.

Time will tell how well any EZY service from the North West to SSH does - and which of it's North West bases they decide to operate the route from.

AndyH52,

I don't plan to turn this into another LPL v MAN dreary competition. It is a statement because it is a fact.

Where did I say there was no demand between LPL and SSH?:confused: All I said was that MAN has much more demand for SSH services than LPL:

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Please read carefully Andy before accusing me of ever daring to think that MAN is bigger than LPL in any way!:{

Believe EZY and BMI have arranged Christmas flights (in the run-up to Xmas) from the UK, including ex. Manchester.
Assume this is in addition to the normal charter operators who usually serve these seasonal routes.

MUFC Fan, the only FACT is that Manchester has more capacity than Liverpool on the SSH route. Demand has nothing to do with it as there is currently no option for those pax who would find LPL easier and would prefer to fly from there than MAN.

You're free to think what you like, I didn't bring 'size' into this...

MAN-IVL flights have been known about for months now.....they fit in with the existing MAN schedule.

With regards to the MAN/LPL argument..........I think what MUFC is trying to say is that MAN's catchment area is huge when compared to Liverpool's lucrative yet very defined catchment. With that in mind, such a new Easyjet leisure destination would have better chance out of MAN.

My bets are on SSH-MAN. The marketing PA's issued to crews last week state MAN-SSH. These were swiftly recalled but this is probably due to the fact that the route isn't ready for launch yet.

Mancry tell us the other destination on the marketing PA!

I don't usually like to blab on here just in case anyone from work reads however the other destinations are widely rumoured here.

MancRy - The myth of MAN having a "huge" catchment area compared with other airports including Liverpool was well and truly 'de-bunked' during the RWY2 public inquiry and again when White paper on the future of aviation in the UK was published in 2002, when it was demonstrated that the airport with the largest population catchment in the North was actually Sheffield!!!.

Unfortunately for Sheffield airport read Sheffield Business park, sold for £1.
Could have been a great City airport, too short a runway for long haul or Euro Charters.

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Isnt Sheffield part of the Manchester airport catchment area?

When i want to go to the far east or USA where else can i catch a flight from,cant se Robin Hood ever having such destinations .

KLM from DTV etc ,could but transfers with them usually mean me at destination bags in Amsterdam!

That leaves the likes of Liverpool, Leeds again transfers and taking a chance on Ryanair ,ie they wont fall out with the airport and jump ship the day before you need to catch a flight to europe for a connection flight

no sorry to say we are part of Manchesters catchment!

Forgot Newcastle but Emirates have no competition from Qatar,Ethiad,etc
like manchester and it usually shows in the rates.

Thats my view anyway from sub tropical Sheffield Hallam.

Almost all of Yorkshire fall's in Manchester's catchment. I actually spent the first 18 years of my life in Barnsley and people seldom used LBA.....it was always MAN and perhaps EMA. SZD, when it was operating, served a niche at best.

I operate flights out of MAN (and sometimes LPL) and during the Scottish holidays certain routes are filled with, yes you guessed it, Scottish families. This demonstrates how further more the MAN catchment extends on a secondary basis.