Ironically Wed and Sat, the same days as PIA's ISB-LBA-ISB

Eastern Airways are to pull their scheduled services from Manchetser. After dropping the Manchester to Inverness service, the airline is pulling off the Manchester to London Stansted service from 28th November.

G'day Skip:

You asked: As this is presumably a BA code share, what did they offer you when your connecting service was delayed?

They told me to go back home and call BA to make new arrangements for the following day. Which I did; but the poor chap at BA said that he was unable to help and that I should go back to Ringway airport to re-arrange my travel for the next day. Naturally I was unimpressed at this shuttling back and forth, and made that clear. Credit to the bloke on the other end of the phone. He put me on hold and, after 30 minutes, had re-booked me onto another BA shuttle the following day, and a new QF flight from LHR-SYD. It was explained to me that he only did this due to my One World status. Which is nice for me, but a great pity for casual travellers who would otherwise be left in the lurch.

So I did get home to Sydney, but arrived a day late, which caused a few issues at work.

philbky - Many thanks for your articulate arguments outlined in posts 155 and 163. As a proud Mancunian and reasonably informed 'layperson' when it comes to aviation, I found your points very persuasive, well made and informative.

Cheers.

Thank you Anna's Dad

yep here here......to those comments Philbyk

AA 757 to MAN tomorrow?
 

FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > American Airlines Inc. #54 > 18-Nov-2008 > KORD-EGCC

Is an AA 757 comming in tomorrow morning on the ORD route?

NO, it was showing as a 763.
Of further interest today, BMI flight to ORD, is listed as departed 3 mins. before AA,
and landed 40 mins. after AA at ORD.
Is the 763 that much faster than theA330,or is it down to different routings.
Tower

Hearing rumours about SIA pulling out next year unsubstantiated at the mo, anyone heard anything on this?.

zfw

SIA pulling out?!? Please no. Am using them over Xmas to Oz (more expensive than Thiefrow). When will this madness end?

It's an unsubstatiated rumour as likely to have come from someone bored, but with a fertile mind as much as from a reliable source.

Whilst this is a rumour network and the OP has stated that the story is unsubstantiated, it would be useful to know the source.

London Heathrow
 

B*gger LHR, I'd rather overnight via AMS anytime. UK airports are the pits.

Well said al446. Heathrow is a dump! Flew there last Friday - terminal fascilities are reasonable but apron side looks a slum ready for demolition! If I need to travel inter continental I'd go via Amsterdam in the absence of flights out of Manchseter.

BA never has had a commitment to Manchester or the region known as "not London". If one looks at the catchment area within 70 miles of Manchester there is surely potential to develop services particularly (apart from the current recession) across the Atlantic. Just looked at the Lufthansa website and they operate various services across the Ocean out of Munich which suggests a commitment to a comparable market to Man.

BMIs withdrawl from Manchester only adds salt to the wound.

But what is most galling are the adverts by both BA & BMi for "cheap" flights out of London to the USA. I recognise that to make a profit the routes will be partly dependent on business travellers but within the Manchester catchment area there are a significant number of business travellers who would happily fly from a regional airport if only they still had the choice and services were available. Isn't it ironic that Jet2 (admitedly a low cost carrier) is reporting satisfactory interest in their pending service to New York from LBA?

Lets hope a carrier takes up the challenge and establishes successful East Coast routes out of Man.

Like Newark you mean? *cough* Continental twice daily from Terminal 2.

We get it. You hate Heathrow and you have no grasp of the airline business. Apron side is a mess because they are expanding the EuroPier and building Terminal 5C.
Take some time and read through the 1000s of posts that tell you why Germany and the UK are different markets.Course perhaps you're right and all those airlines know nought. I suggest a letter.

Continental, American, Delta and USAirways!!!!! GEEEZZZ

The thing that I cant get my head around is this...

We all hear airline know it alls on this site forever bang on about how there are no high yeild passengers out of MAN (or anywhere else North of the Watford Gap for that matter). Well lets expand it a bit and say the Northwest in general.... Let me ask you this.

What choice do high yield pax have out of MAN?

Oh yeah, that's right, take away BA's JFK and BD's ORD (Antigua, Vegas and Barbados are leisure routes), and what are you left with? That's right, either a trip to LHR, CDG or AMS.... Perhaps if the airport got off their arse and quit charging airlines through the nose and started attracting proper scheduled carriers to the airport. You know, ones that actually offer the same level of services as London Deathrow, then perhaps, just mabey, us silly Northerners might actually BUY said services, because many of us BUY the same services from other airports!

Well said one echo!

Who cares if you hate Heathrow? A lot of people join the slagging wagon but how many people use it? Yes...more than everyone elses favourite hubs of AMS, CDG and FRA!

LHR may have had its bad press but it is now working a lot better and a T6 with a 3rd runway would put it up against ATL and ORD.

Boston & Miami are two glaring ommissions from the MAN - East coast portfolio.
Both of which could be served by American, rather than feed LHR offering a choice to the perceived wippet & ferret unwashed northerners.
Draw your own conclusions why they were withdrawn last time, but they were not that easy to book, routing via somewhere else (guess?) always came up first.

Does anybody have any proof of the so called 'London Airways' forcing AA to avoid MAN?

If not, which i presume, WW may have a few bones to pick with a few people on this forum. Slander is an expensive hobby! Even more than aviation!

I am so incredibly bored of Manchester fans with chips on their shoulders moaning about BA and BMI (and yes, my local airport of Manchester!). I believe whole heartedly in the idea of supply and demand- if the premium passengers are really there, as so many seem to claim, then some airline will see the potential and jump into these routes. It's quite telling that BA and BMI can't make longhaul from Manchester work and VS has not expanded beyond a handful of leisure routes. If you are right, there is no need to worry, as surely AF, LH or someone else will JUMP at such a profit-making option!

I've said it once and I'l say it again- BA does not owe anything to anyone other than its shareholders. These ideas of airline 'loyalty' are misplaced. Please can we stop BA-bashing (or BAshing, haha), as it's so tiresome to read.

On a positive note, its pleasing to see Easy expanding, albeit slowly at Manchester. I'm a tad surprised at only one daily frequency to Paris, but I guess that they want to test the waters first. Air Canada is more good news and they should do better now that some of the competition has disappeared and people are increasingly concerned about whether their airline will actually be running by the time they take their flight! Great news!

DISP, if MAN is "charging airlines through the nose", how come Ryanair have gone to 10 routes ex-MAN? After all, they've previously gone public with "High charges at MAN" and cut services.

Another forum suggests some expansion (new easyJet A320 at MAN with a breakdown of service details) and a very surprising resumption (one that makes me doubt the accuracy of what's proposed)

As for London Airways, contemplate why they did not codeshare MIA-MAN when they had the opportunity (perhaps too many MAN pax would choose that route rather then MAN-LHR-MIA?) and the BOS route had allegations that the poorer yielding passengers were being routed through onto AA's service using the BA codeshare.

MAN is not going to produce a combined J, Y+ and Y mix to make routes profitable. Perhaps it's telling that as BA is a "commercial" airline, the route to JFK ran profitably with just J and Y classes (well, it wasn't withdrawn was it?!). The moment they do away from it, they run into trouble. Perhaps it's not the MAN catchment area's problem....it's the airlines perceived ideas of what they think is best for the area.

Are we hearing Air Canada returning now Zoom are gone? *wonders if hope for GLA*

So what the Hell are Continental, Delta, USAirways and American flying across the Atlantic from Manchester? Fresh air?