thats not possible if they have an agreed contract, sounds like "ramp talk" to me

Crains Manchester Business website reports there are plans for a new 'super freight terminal' of 1.5 million square feet

just seen this too, seems interesting, nice too see growth at MAN.

I predict that Fedex will return in Febuary 09 with upto
four daily services...........

MM

3 ATRs to Stansted, Edinburgh and Glasgow and a Caravan to Carlisle, to be called EdEx :E :} :ok:

Hellenic Imperial Airlines 747
 

Does anybody know if the above is at manchester at the minute or if it is going to be there tomorrow?

thanks

shown on another forum as SX-TID B742 [ETA 00:45] MON275R

WW
 

The remainder of WW's existing destinations now showing in booking engine for summer 2009. Very much as this year but with less midweek flights until peak summer.

Viscount

MAN ready for A380 Diversions
 

Manchester Airport today published details of its readiness to act as Diversion Alternate for A380 flights. The procedures are contained in a supplement to the Aerodrome Manual and come into effect from 6th October. A NOTAM will follow, and subsequent AIP entry.

BMI Baby
 

viscount702

I have just checked one week in June and it is very much better than
this year with five based units compared to four. With Monday, Thursday
and Friday maxed out rotations wise and not many gaps the rest of the
week either.

I suppose you could say that the number of the Madrid and Lisbon rotations are little disappointing and again no Polish routes but they
have yet to be released from EMA & BHX yet. Could aircraft number
six be in the pipeline?

Pete

WW
 

Pete

It looks like five A/C at present.

The timings don't fit together nicely at the moment. Wasn't helped by the fact that the initial release quoted Zulu time. Now corrected.

There seem to be three periods

1)Up to early July
2) July to early September
3) September to October

As I said the times don't fit nicely at present.Using what we have got leaves few if any gaps for other destinations not what WW implied.

Message earlier on the BMI thread suggested 5 A/C for MAN. If that is right I can't see much by way of new routes with any frequency. If there were to be a 6th Aircraft that would be different.

Viscount


Viscount

WW
 

From what I can see of the schedule so far there is scope for an extra flight on days 1,2,3,4 and 7 and for two extra flights on day 6.

The rotations don't lend themselves to an A321 turnaround time so I expect it to be 5 B733 aircraft, which would match to BHX losing an aircraft for Summer 09 over Summer 08. I'd be surprised if there was a 6th unit to be based in MAN for next year, but if it was I expect it to be the A321 coming back which may open the possibility for longer sectors... Canaries perhaps? The A321 has been fantastic this Summer in terms of loads and onboard sales so WW would be mad not to have it again next year!

viscount702

Agreed, 5 at present but I only had time to check the one week in June.
BHX certainly runs end of March to end of May then to July and then
a final change in September back to similar to June.

bmi expat

The week I tried was the first week in June where it was definitely five
aircraft and no gaps on Mondays, Thursdays and Friday. I did not have
time to check other dates except for bhx where it is definitely seven
based units compared to eight now. Cardiff is still three but again good
utilization (I only checked that same first week in June).

I see from the East Mids thread that there is more new routes rumoured.

Pete

WW - wouldn't trust them to go as far as link Juliett 1.
 

Don't talk to me about WW!- Babies playing at running a low-cost operation.
Twice now they have pulled flights on me, the latest was a Manchester - Madrid return (only been going for couple of months). The joke of it was that they cancelled my return so suggested that I go out on the Thursday flight, and return on the same aircraft 20 mins after landing in Madrid!!? - Doubt if I could have cleared inbound immigration by then let alone check-in again and go through security. They then said over the phone that they'd refund me the return fare as it was unreasonable, BUT they hadn't changed the outbound flight so wouldn't be refunding that portion. (They later changed their mind on this one after receiving a piece of paper from me !)
Another hoot, was the fact that this morning they sent me an Email requesting me to fill in a survey regarding the ease of booking on the website and the level of service I received on my recent flight with them! Ohhhhh did I fill it in !!!!

I immediately booked with Easyjet from JLA when WW canx my man trip. The the flight was full on the way home, so don't tell me that Baby really tried on this one, or with many of their other ops! Half hearted attempts with old aircraft and a very strange route set-up.
So having got an old fleet of B737's why are so many flight being operated by infilling with BMI mainline aircraft, some of them A.321's - BARMY.

I'll never be touching Bmibaby again - Over to you Easyjet / Ryanair then?:ok:

A question for your Lordship, if I may - any news on the proposed new tower?

What with development of the new T stands, the opening of the revised taxiway system around the end of Pier B (on this coming Thursday) and other developments the airport really seems to at last be splashing out - now we only need more flights.

There was a rumour that Wizz might be leaving Doncaster and Liverpool, but I believe that it now may not happen - nice i it did though.

Thanks

Scottie Dog

B Pier refurb put back for 5 years or until economic climate picks up.................EK looks like it will be parking on 27 or 29.
A380 still sched for 2010 depending on deliveries etc.

Lots of belt tightening coming up for the winter months in MAPLC and ANOTHER Strategic Review underway with details published after christmas, so expect another tranche of PLC to be out-sourced, replaced or just gone as the PLC moves towards just being a landlord.

zfw

New tower delayed tfn, I was told
bb

Is the strategic review headed by Geoff, or by the Board? If it's the latter we might get a decent CX at last.

If it's by Geoff, it'll be more of the same - cut costs (i.e. customer service, maintenance etc.) build more shops, and give the directors fat pay rises.

Apologies if this has already been reported, but a tidbit of good news.

Lufthansa's plan for Munich this winter is 3 daily A319. Along with the LX upgrade, all good news from the STAR group.

Regards

Mike

BMI Baby
 

Any Baby experts know why so many Baby Manchester rotations are being cancelled at short notice recently?
Madrid, Jersey, Prague, Cork have all been hit. If this continues then it will certainly affect future bookings if they are to become unreliable.

Jet Airways codeshare
 

can anyone recall conversion of codeshares to direct flights?

Qatar Airways code shared with Lufthansa on flights to Munich for a while before they started their own services...

bigMAN

Mr A Tis

I recently posted this comment in the BFS thread and also in a baby cancellation thread in this forum but I will repeat it here.MAN, BFS and EMA are all losing some of my business as a result.

Somebody said
and my reply was

I believe the reasons are aircraft shortage (TOYL/M only recently arrived) and a series of tech problems with the rest of the fleet which isn't exactly new.

They seem to be upsetting many pax - there is a story of a chap going somewhere (Poland?) I think from EMA where they canx his outbound flight several days in advance and advised him that he would now be on the next flight a couple of days later - on the day he was coming back!! He had to write/ phone several times before he got any sense out of them or the promise of a refund: not surprisingly, he is now travelling with another carrier.

And they have certainly p*ssed off Lord Toofouright who expressed forceful views on the subject just earlier. So I think they need to buck their ideas up PDQ.

betablocker

As far as India is concerned, I don't think you will see any direct flights from MAN. Even BHX cannot seem to sustain them. And whilst the SN codeshare with Jet will give an indication of demand they might capture, I can't see there being enough to one destination in India to sustain a direct service. The beauty of the Brussels hub is that it allows onward travel to several destinations in India.

Suzeman

When you only pay coppers for a flight, what do you expect? You wanna save money; so does the airline.

You get what you pay for. A fact that many people on here fail to understand.

That applies to airline service levels, employee motivation levels, airport cleanliness standards and so on.

Re: New Tower
 

Scottie,
Sorry for the delay in replying but the facts as I understand them are that the Board are considering several proposals vis-a-vie the new proposed VCR.

1) Was an all singing and dancing construction of an iconic variety that looked really good on paper.:D However I feel that that is as far as that one got.:(
2) Slightly less ambitious one proposed, not as tall and less space aloft.:=
3) A new shed-on-a-pole (Emm haven't seen a post from him for a while?!).:sad:
4) Just a new shed!:(

All are being actively considered but my bet is that instead of past beliefs of build while there is a downturn to be ready for the Upturn, the bid for another far flung "Assett" will take precedence over all matters!:ugh:

As far as I'm aware the Stand to be dedicated for A.380 ops is Stand 32.:zzz:

Is this airfeld really ready for A.380 ops ? - don't rate it myself - it's bound to fall into a hole somewhere on the taxiway system or failing that hold up every other movement whilst it taxies in / starts-up - pushes back / taxies out. :\
Have we any steps for it? - Send out to B&Q for Three section ally-ladder, but make sure all who use it have been trained in "How to use a ladder", - you know it makes sense?;)

Momentary Lapse.

What you overlook, is that not everyone pays coppers for their lo co flights.

If you need to get somewhere at short notice you pay the likes of Monarch, Baby & Jet2 a small fortune to travel, but still get dicked about & treated like S H one T.

Is this airfeld really ready for A.380 ops ? - don't rate it myself

Likewise I dont rate it either. As soon as the punters get off an A380 at stand 32 the hole of the terminal will grind to a halt as the queue through immigration backs up to that stand. There is already problems on that pier mixing inbound and outbound passengers, with flight delays as boarding is held whilst inbound pax are let off aircraft!! The airport is getting no better to work from longs queues through immigration long queues getting through staff channels, believe the new Iris system is having a few teething problems too, hardly any of the travelators work. MAplc are more concerned about getting passengers into shops to spend money than making it an airport with a pleasant travel experience. Permanant construction going on inside, outside the terminals and on the apron - when will it ever end.
I really dislike the place at the moment, I have seen better airports in native third world countries!! :mad:

Reluctantly, I must agree with the above posts.

As much as ai would LOVE to see an A380 gracing the tarmac daily, I would hate to get off a short flights into terminal 2 (AMS, CDG etc.) and find that I have to wait as long as the flight to get through immigration!

I don't know if there is a seperate channel for EU arriving flights as I wouldn't fly Skyteam if they paid me but whenever I come back with FCA/TOM etc. they always que with the EK/SQ lot. Is that still correct?

Before w see the A380 - lets see the airport try to regain it's status as one of the world's leading airports - can't have a small county in the Pacific beating us!:ok:

If Brian Fantana is in San Diego, how come he sees so much of Manchester Airport, especially seeing as there are no direct services between the two cities?

Just asking....... :hmm:

Was that the hole of the terminal or the whole of the terminal?? :}

Suzeman

Guys. I few updates for you.

1. No new VCR. New standby facility to be built out on the airfield.
2. A380 ops is for diversions only. Much work to do on stand 12 and 32 before schedule ops.
3. No staff channel issues since opening of new OBCs in all terminals.
4. Wizz Air off for this winter, but I'm sure they'll try again for next summer. Remember we'll be out of regulation by then.

I must congratulate MAG for the wonderful new experience in T2. departures.

1. Travel up one level to the waiting long queue
2. Enter boarding pass to scanner
3. Scanner eats boarding pass
4. wait for very pi$$ed off employee to extracate from scanner
5. queue to travel back down to ground level
6. arrive in the dark and gloomy corner of the old toilet block

Marvellous......Thats the way to impress your customers :D

Nothing new at MAN for over a week now?

and some posts have disappeared as well! i.e. the BA reduncancies post and replies!!:confused:

6 (possibly 7) LHR fog related diversions on Sat, including 4x 777.

Has the credit/fuel crisis prompted airlines to limit holding fuel to minimum criteria? In the past there's been many a day when low viz procedures have been in place at both LHR and LGW without anything venturing up north, so what's changed?

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but i heard a likkle whisper that T2 is to go all charter with T1 being used for Scheduled only ???

Comments ??

Jet2 is to introduce a new summer route to the Greek island of Rhodes. it's due to begin from 20th May '09, on Wednesdays.
Guess could be a charter-like one.

Old news, and T3 is going low-cost.....

G-STAW

Does that mean cheap car parking...? :}

Was there an aircraft performing a prolonged high-thrust engine run on 1st October.

Sounded like there were screaming jets for several minutes at a time during mid-late afternoon.