G-STAW

I owe you an apology as I misread your first post, reading 737 rather than 733. I'm not sure if all the 733s are going but certainly the mix will be 738 heavy at MAN.

Some of the crews coming onto the 73 are coming off the Airbus and some from the 756. The way it works is that you bid for a base/rank/type mix, the base being the first bit looked at so it doesn't neccessarily follow that all the Airbus guys will go on the 73 because they may have bid for a base that needs 756 guys in that rank. I think the majority will though because the 756 fleet is shrinking and the 73 growing (or perhaps shrinking less fast!). It is all part of the long term gear up to become a 737 / 787 airline, if the Tupperware Jet ever gets going that is. Down about 10 airframes by this time next year from May this year as "synergies" following the merger are realised and a slight drop in Long Haul -v- a slight rise in Mid Haul.

The first of the latest batch of 73 transition courses starts next week. More 73s are due next year (TBC) but they will be replacement airframes rather than growing the fleet. The 735s are still on the books but mothballed, some of the 733s are getting tired (as am I getting tired of flying them - sheds). The 738 is the way ahead. A very nice aeroplane to fly.

No real changes at MAN regarding routes AFAIAA

thankyou for the detailed reply.

Seems like a complicated time for the crews, it looks like some pilots could be downsizing their type for a specific base. might see some testing times as some might go straight for the widebody bases.....we'll see.

think we might see some A320 guys who are wanting to stay on type go over to monrch or even easyjet? i know TOM have better T's & C's but....

i am a lover of the 733, glad theyre replacing them with newer frames. G-THOK springs to mind......

its actually ben a pritty bad day for you guys, a 767-200 turned back, plus a 737-800 had a lightening strike early this morning, only going out at 7pm tonight, very unfortunate...


regards,

G-STAW

Yeah, looks like a busy winter for the 73 Training Dept! About 100 Type Conversions to do. The Trg Head Shed seem to have a workable plan though. Whether that survives contact with Rostering remains to be seen. A few of the younger guys are sniffing around other airlines, don't really know about the Airbus people as I rarely come into contact with them. Also, about 80 odd are leaving on a Voluntary Redundancy scheme - no idea of the demographic of that.

Bad days happen. I had no idea as I was head down at home writing 737 course material! The good thing is that when it goes belly up the bods in LTN really get a grip.

You seem well informed? You Blue or Pink (in which case I've been wasting my time as you will know all this anyway!!!)

So where are Hamburg Intl going to fly to from MAN with their two based A319s this winter?

They are picking up the old AEU program by looks of it by doing BJL and SID routes.

yeah, best time to get the coversions done over the winter period, ready for the summer schedule.

I work for servisair ops, so get daily happening, i know a few reps so im both blue and pink, not really baised.start my PPL/CPL soon im also studying the 737NG so im in contact with a few FO's at TOM. trying to get into ops with TOM/FCA but no luck atm.....

G-STAW

I understand from the local Granada news last night that Servisair are to make 180-200 people compulsorily redundant at MAN shortly.

So I hope you will be OK G-STAW

Looks like it is going to be a tough old winter out there.

Suzeman

Flybe talking about expansion with plans to restore routes to Madrid and Lyon as well as starting new routes to Amsterdam, Hamburg and Stuttgart.

No mention of timescale.

see Crain's Manchester Business

Does anyone know what is happening to the TCX Cayo Coco flight? I work in Cyprus and have heard a rumour the flight is coming here, which I think is very strange. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

If its the MAN - CCC flight today, I saw the crew and the're off to CCC as planned. Departs around now. I wished them the best as I'm just back from the entrails of Ike! Hope they take their wellies...

its changing from day to day here at circusair, we all had a letter stating the companies intentions regarding redundancies (180 to go atm). They are blaming redundancies on zoom going bust, which is a load of waffle. Currently i dont think my job is safe, thus im applying for swissport and oceansky atm

XL's position isnt helping the situation, the rep said their winter shedule doesnt go much futher than TFS & PMI....

and then theres Futura going bust, the list goes on.....BTW iberworld are taking over futura routes v.soon.

G-STAW

I used to travel through MAN airport T1 every week to work in Hamburg, but have not been there since 31st July of this year. Can anyone tell me if all of the new shops, cafe's etc have opened now and is the make over complete? I will be there on Sunday and back on Friday.

And anything on T2? I heard a while ago that work had startedon the new security area and was set to finish later in the year and someone also told me about the extension of T3 beginning a few weeks ago.

Hope someone can provide me with some info.

Thanks, Mat.

Also, any new news ref the works on the taxiway's?

We got the wrong end of the stick in the office about the Cuba flight. Customers who decided not to go to CCC are coming to Cyprus for their holiday instead.

WW
 

A few summer 2009 flights now in booking engine.

Includes Twice daily except Sat to AMS

Viscount

New baby routes for summer 09

Amsterdam
Toulouse

HAMBURG 2K8

All 3 terminals now have their new security points open and running. Shops are appearing gradually. I believe T1 will be done by Christmas, T2 by Easter next year and T3 is ongoing.

T3 apron extension is at the ground works stage by the looks of it.

Does anyone know if T2 has a dedicated area for transfer passengers ie coming off CO going onto AF or do passengers have to exit and start again?

Does anyone know if there is a new holding pattern north east of Woodford? Past couple of evenings has seen aircraft in the hold there.


Thanks

Probably weather avoidance. Tue evening was interesting with both AFR1168 and BMA4QA, from the south, passing through centreline around 7 DME and then right circuit to establish at approx 10 DME

There is a VRP called Hill Top just near Woodford, its used for VFR traffic joining from the south.

Flybe to restore old BACon routes
 

Low-cost carrier Flybe plans to restore routes it axed from Manchester Airport when it took-over loss-making BA Connect in 2007, according to chief commercial officer Mike Rutter.

The airline said it was looking to reintroduce services to Madrid and Lyon as well as starting new routes to Amsterdam, Hamburg and Stuttgart.

The airline is one of the biggest low-cost carriers at Manchester, flying to more than 14 destinations from Manchester, according to its website.

Rutter said he was confident the new routes would be profitable, saying, “Manchester remains a key hub for us and we are aiming to increase passenger numbers from a million last year to around 1.5m over the next 12 months.”

The airline also plans additional flights to Milan and Hannover and expects continued growth on services to German cities such as Dusseldorf and Frankfurt where it competes with Lufthansa, which is increasing capacity on the route, as reported by Crain’s yesterday.

Flybe is expected to publish its winter schedule in the coming weeks

Would be good news if Flybe started a Hamburg service. Air Berlin are stopping their flights from Manchester to Hamburg after 31st October, don't know wheather they are keep the Paderborn one's?

If Flybe do start them, I hope they use a bigger aircraft than Lufthansa's CRJ200!

Mat.

It will be a Q400 78 seat turboprop

There is a transit lounge and, as both airlines pass through T2, it is possible but probably not likely unless they are they both in some kind of 'Star Alliance/One World' code share. Suggest you conact the airlines/airport.

JsJ

If you have a through ticket you'll just transfer airside. If on two seperates you'll collect your bags and go and re-check in.

Sky Europe - Next to go????
 

I am told Sky Europe OMNGD is parked on the West Apron at Manchester with an airport vehicle parked behind it.

Surely not a second airline gone in a day??? Does anyone know any information?

**Second aircraft just arrived on stand and been subjected to the same treatment***

If you are arriving into the UK on CO from the USA I expect you will be required to clear immigration and customs before continuing your journey. I imagine this would involve going out to landside then back through security.

The second Sky has just departed (1740) so they are obviously not impounded.

Virgin gains from loss of XL
 

Speaking to a number of passengers today travelling to MCO had bought tickets early this morning on virgin website after XL stopped trading. Both VS flights had extra passengers saying we will sort out the problems with XL when we return from holiday.

STATSMAN

so thats XL, freebird and skyeurope(?), all within 16 hours.

we'r getting handling requests from alot of charter airlines such as omni air bring pax back from SFB and hellas jet bringing pax back from europe.

what a day!

good luck to all those now lookig for jobs...

G-STAW

I am confused -which sources are you getting the info from about Freebird and confirmation about SkyEurope?? I hope its not assumptions during these hard times....as that would be quite insensitive to staff concerned.

got a phonecall from work saying that freebird have about to go bust, as for skyeurope look in news section....

G-STAW

NE/AA
 

SkyEurope

Vienna departure board: -

22:55NE 3502LarnacaGo to Gate Skyeurope Airlines

The AMS-VIE has left and is on route.

However just tried to book on their website and got "error call airline"

American Airlines

They announced this week that they are going to have an 18 strong
sub-fleet on International 757's mainly to be used from JFK but within
a matter of days both DUB-ORD & MAN - ORD have been rumoured as
downgrades to the 757. Very tight on operating limits but I believe it
is possible. Some LHR services are to be downgraded to 763's from
777's. The 757's are for new routes as well as releasing 763's to
cover the withdrawal of the Miami based AB6's so I am told.

The 757's will have new interiors with a 16/166 config, which is slightly
more than Continentals offering.

The 757's are rumoured to start going in the hangar by the end of
the year. I was thinking MAN-JFK rather than a 757 on ORD.

Pete

Will MAN ever see a BA with their 757s again?

My favourite aircraft in my favourite livery at my favourite airport! There was nothing better! Now that the 757s operate from a different terminal to MAN-LHR shuttle flights at LHR, we will probably never see them in the city again!:{

Nope, no chance of a BA 757. They can't operate from T5 so no domestic action with them (757s don't use containerised baggage like the Bus).

Some may go to FredEx but the rest of BA's 757s are bound for OpenSkies. The fleet won't be in the BA blue very much longer as they are now oddballs in their operation.

some excel rescue flights
EC JOZ 767 sat 0755
SX TID 747 sat 1600

SX TID 747 sun 0240
N720AX DC10 sun 0935

Sky Europe

The first aircraft NE 190 was impounded by MAPLC for outstanding charges,and not to be outdone/ jumping on the bandwagon the second aircraft NE196 was impounded by Menzies for outstanding charges, both issues resolved.

zfw

my company is quadrupling handling fees for these rescue flights, its a shame airlines are getting attacked for putting their prices up, when they have no choice but to pay execesive handling fees. Theres always someone making money out of a bad situation....disgusting

G-STAW

Handling Fees
 

Does the airlines involved in these flights not get the money back from CAA and ATOL??
:confused: