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topjetboy 10th May 2008 16:31

Thomas Cook acquisitions.. or not. (Merged)
 
Anyone else heard the TCX buying XLA rumour? Heard it a few days ago.

glider12000 10th May 2008 17:48

I`m XLA crew and not heard anything....

J.O. 10th May 2008 18:51

Not a slag, just an honest question. If they were to do so, what would they gain in the purchase of XLA? Would there be any benefit other than taking a relatively small competitor out of the mix?

A and C 10th May 2008 19:11

Why?
 
A chance to grab three new A330's, to replace the 767's and a fleet of 738 &9's to replace the 757's. looking for a more fuel efficent fleet?

I don't think it will happen but if it did that would be the answer.

jetstream7 10th May 2008 22:01

From the Eimskip website...


Eimskip´s loan guarantee provided to the buyers of XL Leisure Group is still valid

Hf. Eimskipafelag Islands today announces that the loan guarantee it provided to the purchasers of XL Leisure Group in the UK in the end of 2006 is still valid. The Company had previously announced that the guarantee would expire on 5 May 2008. Due to difficult market conditions the refinancing has not been completed but Eimskip is in good cooperation with the management of XL Leisure Group and its financial partners. The Company expects the guarantee to be waived in the coming weeks.

For further information

Halldor Kristmannsson

Executive VP of Corporate Communications
http://www.eimskip.com/DesktopDefaul.../27_read-1803/

So presumably something in the pipeline,and not necessarily a purchase by another company?

stue 11th May 2008 02:45


Anyone else heard the TCX buying XLA rumour?
Nope, but i only fly for them. We would be the last to know! :ok:

australiancalou 11th May 2008 07:02

Why not. That could be wise. Something has to happen anyway...:suspect:

SWBKCB 11th May 2008 10:40

Given the effort required in bringing MYT and TCX together organisationally, are they in the position to do this?

Sean Dillon 11th May 2008 10:45

Don't see why not, get it right second time:rolleyes:

ROSSKi MYT 11th May 2008 10:46


738 &9's to replace the 757's
I disagree, they would more likely replace the A320's, roughly same capacity.

goldeneye 11th May 2008 17:37

The decision to buy the XLA woulld be made by The Thomas Cook Group and not TCX. TC plc are on a spending spree but i doubt very much that the XL Group would be on there radar, although stranger things have happened.
XL have a french airline which may be of interest for capacity for the French tour ops of TC. Travel City Direct and Kosmar holidays also may be of use plus the Australian business would give TC a foot back into Australia. We will wait an see.

heli_port 11th Jul 2008 10:48

Thomas Cook scraps plans to buy Air Berlin
 

Thomas Cook and Air Berlin have scrapped a deal in which Thomas Cook would have taken a 30 per cent stake in Air Berlin and sold its own loss-making airline, Condor, to the budget airline.
The tour operator said today that it and Air Berlin had withdrawn an application for merger approval from the German Bundeskartellamt, the equivalent of the Office of Fair Trading. At the time the deal was announced in September, Thomas Cook said it would receive shares in Air Berlin worth between €380 (£303) and €475 (£379) million plus €120 million in cash.
Thomas Cook scraps plans to buy Air Berlin - Times Online

celso75 11th Jul 2008 11:14

never let the facts get in the way of a good story eh! :ugh:

lederhosen 11th Jul 2008 11:37

Well it certainly puts a new spin on things! But it is a poorly thought through article, how does 30% (as the journalist says himself) give you ownership?

Everyone here in Germany knows Air Berlin was buying Condor. The fact that Arcandor, the parent of Thomas Cook was taking shares in Air Berlin in part payment was also well known.

The fact is that Air Berlin's shares have fallen to such an extent that a deal along the original lines was no longer possible. First thing this morning AB shares jumped over 10% on the news. Although the underlying logic for such a gain is unclear.

angels 11th Jul 2008 12:14

Herr Lederhosen - you certainly have a financial brain my friend.

Air Berlin shares presently at 3.64 euros, down 6 cents after earlier hitting 4.14.

MD11F 11th Jul 2008 12:23

Condor is a loss making Airline????
Condor is definitly a profitable Airline!:ok:

lederhosen 11th Jul 2008 12:55

Not sure what you are on about Angels, are you being complimentary about my superlative knowledge or sarcastic. Stupid question this being Pprune it can only be the latter. The radio reported that Air Berlin's shares were up 10% first thing this morning. I am not providing a ticker service, just reporting what Bayern 5 said (bit like radio 4 in lederhosen). The fact that they are back down again is hardly a surprise. If BR5 got it wrong then I guess that further reinforces the message take with a pinch of salt what journos report!

angels 11th Jul 2008 13:06

Complimentary Herr Lederhosen!! It's a shame you thought otherwise.

You correctly surmised that there was something odd about the initial jump. I assume somebody screwed up initially when they saw the news, bought quite heavily in a thin market and then got dumped on.

lederhosen 11th Jul 2008 13:16

I stand corrected, you are a gentleman and a scholar! Quo Vadis Air Berlin share price then? as you obviously know what you are talking about.

3REDS 11th Jul 2008 13:33

Rumour has it that Thomas Cook are after XL Airways. Anyone have any more info on this?


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