I'm amazed that some people actually believe this crap.
I'm more amazed that I'm bothering to reply to it !
Ryanair? I'd rather swim than fly with those monkeys !

As someone with an accounting background I would be extremly surprised if Baby goes "bust", am not saying they wont close it nor am i saying they wont sell it - truth be told I dont know - but they wont declare bankruptcy as I imagine the structure of the company is that its under group ownership and if you bankrupt one part of the business when the remainder is solvent/profitable it brings a whole host of problems for the rest of the group - if its a standalone separate from the group its a possibility but I cant honestly imagine this is an option at all and isnt a rumour which really should be spread about as it isnt very helpful. You only need a rumour like this to get out into the wider community to instill panic in both employees and consumers - look at Northern Rock and the run on the bank with the panic there!

I have it on good authority that this thread is a buch of hokum and that BMi Baby are doing very well thank you very much.

Ryanair can go shove their sausagefingers where the sun doesnt shine.

bmi demise
 

to those of you who would like to see the demise of bmibaby, how short sighted! If all other UK loco's go under in the UK, this will clearly be of benefit to Ryan and Easy but the ones who will suffer will be the consumers. Reduced competition in the industry will force these two loco's to ramp up their prices for all us fare paying passengers. They will be low on frills but high on price.

Wasn't that the MAS Midland Airport Service operation that was sold to Aviance ? I know BMI have their own passenger handling peeps at GLA, EDI and LHR at least, which is more than BA have !

ATI are now talking about bmibaby going bust.

I can understand why rumours of bmibaby going bust are making their way around the aviation world when all the management at baby talk of tough times and that their is no money in the pot to pay a profit share for the second year running. Now it doesn't look like there will be one next year either, judging by what management tell you at tiny town.

This is the problem when you have profit share schemes. If the companies don't pay one it fuels speculation that all is not well.

bmi are now handled by Servisair at MME as Aviance recently departed

There are no indications AT ALL that there is any validity to these rumours. It would be interesting to know where ATI have sourced that particular nugget of information. If it is uncorroborated rumour recycling then my respect for that organisation will slip a notch or two.

If anything, the information I have from a very reliable source is quite the opposite. BMI Baby are more likely to expand their operations rather than wind anything down.

Companies often go through periods where the profit level does not met the minimum criteria for paying out a profit share scheme. This sort of scheme is a bonus, it is not a mandated payment that must be paid every year. Only the poorly informed would assume that things are not well because there is no profit related bonus. For example, an airline I am intimately acquainted with turned a healthy gross profit, but by the time they finished provisioning for new aircraft and other "crystal ball" events the net profit - which the bonus is based on - was below the trigger threshold. The company, however, is very healthy and expanding.

Perish the thought that another lo-co airline might use this website to seed negative rumours about a competitor... :hmm:

Aircraft Ownership
 

PPRuNers, currently doing a project about the British Midland Fleet and was wondering if anybody knows the ownership status of MEDL, MEDM, MIDC, MIDL, MIDX and MIDZ? As for the rest of the fleet, I have details of ownership; majority are owned by ILFC etc. Many thanks...

Nigel Turner has stated that bmibaby have one year to turn the operation around.

The board has said and I quote "has lost patience" with bmibaby after many years of loses.

So Mr Rix, what are you doing about this?

Going back to bmi Regional if he has any sense...:E

Hmmmm source for this please. I think you'll find that the board has not lost patience with bmibaby. It is acknowledged within the bmibaby board and at group board level that for the last two years profitability has been sacrificed for expansion purposes. The next financial year results will determine future expansion, but by no means has Nigel Turner stated that "bmibaby has one year to turn the operation around".

Have you tried www.caa.co.uk and tried the UK Register link, sure they have ownership details on the site.

Another good one

http://www.jethros.dwsitech.com/menu.htm

regards

K.I.L.

When did bmi last make any money?

I imagine bmibaby lost their patience with bmi a long time ago...

Question 1 - On what routes do bmibaby compete with Ryanair or Easyjet?

Question 2 - What proportion of bmibaby business do those routes represent?

Hudson Bay, I cannot not comment on this...

Sorry, but that is just simply incorrect. Exactly who are you claiming to be 'quoting' there? You claim to be a pilot, and give the impression that you work for bmi in some capacity, but looking back through your posts with regard to them it is you that is consistently posting rubbish.

A couple of examples:

That last one was posted over a week ago. You also appear to enjoy posting bad news about other airlines:

One about BA,

and one with regards to Glopbespan, posted in March last year:

What game are you attempting to play, or more to the point, what is your agenda?

bmi mainline G-MIDU
 

What happened to G-MIDU. Does anyone know why it has been put into storage especially with the summer period coming?

Kind Regards

WFU and returned to lessor. Onward to Spanair

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
htto://www.jethros.dwsitech.com

G-MIDU is currently being repainted into Spanair colours at Southend, it is scheduled to operate it last flight with a 'Midland' callsign as the BD9531
02APR SEN-EMA.