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atakacs 8th Sep 2007 21:50

Swissair trial over
 
Posting here as I believe it deserve some attention...

News just out: the Zurich prosecutor has given up on the appeal against the Swissair management who was cleared of all charges in June - case almost closed (there is still one civil complaint open).

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/swissin...81&sid=8198651

I'm speechless :ugh:

airmen 9th Sep 2007 09:15

Nothing to add I guess:eek:

FL470 9th Sep 2007 19:15

What did you expect? There is no punishment for mismanagement...

F4F 10th Sep 2007 11:50


Swissair trial over
...
Trial, really? Justice?

Just call it another show of (Swiss) politics :yuk:
And thanks to the rotten system for once more wasting generously taxpayer's donuts :ugh:


live 2 fly 2 live

Dani 10th Sep 2007 12:21

it has to be added that it had to be expected that the public prosecution clame never had a chance to succeed, while there is still a great chance that the civil case will do. The former was about jail or not, the second is about money compensation for the damaged parties.

Dani

Hunter58 10th Sep 2007 12:56

The thing is that having won the public case your chances of winning the civil case are higher. And seing the complete underperformance of the public prosecution the chances of nothing but more public money being spend are rather high...

Dani 10th Sep 2007 13:06

that might be correct but just because its chances are low doesn't mean that you shouldn't spend taxpayer's money. *That* would be a sign of a not working public services. You simply cannot stop a juristical process because you don't believe in its success. It's also important to find out that there wasn't anything illegal there - at least nothing illegal enough to jail them.

Dani

Hunter58 10th Sep 2007 13:18

I don't say that there should not be no trials, I just want to warn that expectations should be rather on the low side.

atakacs 10th Sep 2007 14:07


What did you expect? There is no punishment for mismanagement...
there were clear cases of tax fraud and document falsification. Somehow the judge decided that although the crime was established it should not be punished... (this was not the core of the argument but that doesn't change anything). I was not expecting jail time but complete absolution is just amazing in my view.

Dani 10th Sep 2007 14:43

The case was not about tax fraud or document falsifications. The case was about distruction on purpose of shareholders money. Since you need a willful intention for a sentence (otherwise its just bad luck of your business), they couldn't punish anyone.

Atakacs, have attended the court sessions in Bülach? I was there, and I reaffirm that every official person (prosecutor and justices) didn't try to spare anyone.

In the civil process everything will be different, because there you can sentence someone even if his intention wasn't malign.
Dani

atakacs 10th Sep 2007 20:53


Atakacs, have attended the court sessions in Bülach? I was there, and I reaffirm that every official person (prosecutor and justices) didn't try to spare anyone.
Actually I did ! And I am pretty definite that there where charges of tax fraud and document falsification. I certainly agree that it was not the core of the accusation and that you can't really sentence a manager for incompetence, however gross. This is not a reason to absolve them on all charges.


I was there, and I reaffirm that every official person (prosecutor and justices) didn't try to spare anyone.
I believe the prosecutor did a fair job. As for the judges...

atakacs 11th Sep 2007 22:02

More news... the Belgian state has appealed, so I guess there will be a second trial after all... :ok:


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