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DONTTELLTHEPAX 12th May 2007 09:34

12/May STN-YHM flight canx ???
 
B4 165 FlyGlobespan 12:00 PM Cancelled

Have they done this to catch up on them selfs or is there a bigger
problem, I was going to book for today when the route was announced,
so glad I didnt.

warkman 12th May 2007 10:51

The poor sods who should have been back yesterday on the already delayed Thursday SAN-GLA flight, GSM726, should have returned yesterday at 11:40 still hasn't got back yet. The Glasgow Airport web site doesn't even show a estimated time of arrival.

Nil further 12th May 2007 10:57

GLA- PMI 8 hours late yesterday , spoke to some very very pissed off people at GLA yesterday .

No way to run a business , how long till the snowploughs arrive ?

Seems they are still paying invoices to SRT from over a year ago !

caveat emptor

skyman771 12th May 2007 11:56


B4 165 FlyGlobespan 12:00 PM Cancelled
Have they done this to catch up on them selfs or is there a bigger
problem....
Seems that they remain in the proverbial S:mad:t ! They presumably can't run the 165, when the 166/186 is currently showing a 10hr 15 min delay inbound YHM-EDI !
So looking forwards then unless an available aircraft sourced elsewhere you have a 757 in STN when it should presumably be in YHM to operate this evenings YHM-NCL-STN:ugh: Surely this service is going to end in :{ tears:{

spanishflea 12th May 2007 13:03

Various broken aircraft all over the network at the moment don't seem to be helping things.

I think the leased in Icelandair lasted merely a manner of days before it conked out in YHM. I gather it's still there and thats what is causing some problems. The usual operational ineffectiveness GSM have long displayed isn't helping matters either.

I'm sure these things will eventually improve, but seriously treat these guys with the same regard as FlyBe at the moment. Far too many operational problems that won't be solved for some time until the whole operation can reach stability with new aircraft and sensible scheduling.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 12th May 2007 13:35

I am so sorry these routes are going down this road, I had hoped and still do, that it will all work out for GSM, so brave to attempt, but thinking dont run until you can walk. :hmm:

warkman 12th May 2007 16:02

Thier problems seem now to hitting their on-time European routes now as well, GLA-AGP took off ten hours late!

Plus GSM427 GLA to Palma was to t/o at 14:30 only showing as "scheduled"

jetset23 12th May 2007 16:23

When are the Neos B767 due

nancy mchugh 12th May 2007 16:45

Accordingly to cust services today, the last flight to Sanford on a 757 is to take place on the 24th May. From the 25th all Sanford flights to be operated by Neos 767 with 3 class layout. Or so I'm told.

conflier 12th May 2007 17:37

Acording to OAG there will be no flights LPL-JFK/JFK/LPL on 05/28/07 (GSM 201/202).
How accurate are OAG ?

dwlpl 12th May 2007 17:49


Acording to OAG there will be no flights LPL-JFK/JFK/LPL on 05/28/07 (GSM 201/202).
How accurate are OAG ?
I know Amadeus still have the Liverpool/New York flight being into Newark.

Try Newark via OAG and see what comes up.

conflier 12th May 2007 18:05

No flights EWR-LPL on OAG.
In fact OAG shows the flights (JFK-LPL/LPL-JFK) , but not on 05/28 & 05/31.
Also Orbitz does the same

Carnethy 12th May 2007 20:32

Hi

Just home after a 10.5 hour delay from YHM to EDI. YHM is not an airport to be delayed in as the 1 bar & coffee shop close at 11.30pm. After that all there is, is vending machines with a lack of seating.
I honestly think GSM are biting off way more than they can chew, which is such a shame as the actual flight was great with plenty of freebies in Premium Economy. I don't think I have heard the word "disgraceful" said as much as was said today - people flying with FlyGlobespan are not going to go back to them & personally, I will be going with Transat next time. There wasn't even any GSM check in staff or reps at Hamilton!!! It was the poor (& very disgruntled) Air Canada Jazz staff that checked us all in.....surely this is not acceptable?
Such a shame as they could really be a great airline but I feel things will be coming to a head soon.

iwhak 12th May 2007 22:35

My boss won't be happy. He has told us all internally and externally that the NOC services are all full for the summer with over 200,000 seats sold and that it will now run all year round. He also said that FR was a similar story to EMA, and that GWY is under major pressure from us. Hopefully we wont have too many delays and can put real pressure on SNN. Up the Knock!

dwlpl 13th May 2007 08:54


No flights EWR-LPL on OAG.
In fact OAG shows the flights (JFK-LPL/LPL-JFK) , but not on 05/28 & 05/31.
Also Orbitz does the same
Try the airlines website because, depending on the day, seats are in short supply in the Business/Premium Upgrade sections.

Blackball 13th May 2007 09:57

I see that the GSM 531/2 EDI-Murcia-EDI left and returned on schedule. This would seem to suggest that they can not have got it all wrong.
Are you guys just a little guilty of trying to find fault. he who is without sin and all that.
;) ;)

DONTTELLTHEPAX 13th May 2007 10:10

No not at all I want them to do well,
infact it pains me to see everything going so wrong for them
after they were so brave with their routes,
trust me If we were talking about a one off delay of 4 or 5 hours
I would be saying the same as you but we are talking about a hand full of delays 10-14 hrs on a new route that I do not think they should have ran daily well not to start with anyway.

mmeteesside 13th May 2007 10:21

The MME base has been running faultlessly so far, lets hope they keep it up!

10 DME ARC 13th May 2007 12:25

mme base - Well apart from the diversions to NCL because of the CAT1 only ILS at MME!!:)

Blackball 13th May 2007 13:14

:) DONTTELLTHEPAX. If you are correct and let us assume you are spot on with your "statistics", let us please bear in mind that these delays are the result of equipment failure, utilising other peoples equipment whilst awaiting delivery of Flyglobespan,s own equipment.
The airline's reliability on established routes would to my mind seem pretty good for what is essentially a low cost airline. Certainly compared to the much larger "Low Cost Airlines" based out of Luton or Dublin. Both these I have known to my cost just cancel flights when their equipment becomes unservicable, and leave you high and dry.
Flyglobespan would seem to be pretty darn good on the Edinburgh/Faro route for example.

DONTTELLTHEPAX 13th May 2007 13:50

Yes I agree and the STN-TFS is always ontime, all I am thinking is
the STN-YYY-YHM route was offered before the airline was ready
to deal with it, I wish GSM all the luck in the world.

FHA 13th May 2007 14:59

Hello everyone.
What do you mean by equipment Blackball? Are you talking about ground handling or actual aircraft spares?

mono 14th May 2007 08:23

Globespan
 
Been hearing things about Globespan! Running things a bit close to the wire.

Anyone know any more?

stator vane 14th May 2007 08:36

what do you mean?
 
i've turned down working there twice recently, but was considering it---

any chance you could be more specific?

my girlfriend has just started there as cabin crew at STN and they are messing her about already.

Dogma 14th May 2007 09:01

I gather they have considerably over extended themselves (who hasn't!). But their exposure to such diverse longhaul, etc. is a very risky and costly business.

They might be a heading down the well trodden road of "also ran" Airlines:uhoh:

jack_essex 14th May 2007 10:27

Well the inbound at STN from Hamilton via Liverpool is only 18 minutes late today! Things look slightly better! LOL.

Hen Ddraig 14th May 2007 11:51

Only very slightly, CYHM to EGPF is still over 2 hours late today.

Please don't knock the facilities at CYHM, the coffe shop and bar close at 11:30 because there are no passenger flights scheduled during the night, and Hamilton is used to dealing with operators (Westjet and Jazz) who run to schedule.
I have used CYHM many times as both pax and P1, their treatment in both cases has always been superb, they are trying to grow a business and I'm not sure that flyglobespan is going to help.

Hen Ddraig

Time to spare, go by air

diesel36 14th May 2007 12:00

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/view...av2&picid=3780

Hopefully this will start to help

DONTTELLTHEPAX 14th May 2007 12:11

Very nice pic, hope the baggage handlers dont confuse
it with TOM
I can see it now all the LPA bags in YHM and the YHM bags
in LPA:E

mm0wkj 14th May 2007 12:57

First 767 in GS colours from Neos is due in GLA tomorrow. Anyone got confirmation of the seat layout or has the refit been postponed?

stator vane 14th May 2007 13:13

any specifics?
 
for heaven's sake, can't we actually put some information into the thread?

what did you hear and where did you hear it from???

or are you just making it up??

if you are afraid- send me a PM

but for the love of airplanes---actually put some substance in your replies.

webby1919 14th May 2007 13:20

This A/C will be taking over the YVR and YYC routes from all UK bases for S07.

The next Neos B763ER will operate daily SFB flights for S07.

There will be another B752ER coming from Icelandair within the next week or so to operate the YHM flights too. Things are getting back on track!

gavin360 14th May 2007 15:07

so what will 767 the config be????????

Carmoisine 14th May 2007 15:18

A big wig in BALPA told me they were approached about a Union recognition campaign for Globespan, however it was his opinion that based on what he had been told it would be a futile effort as the company was not long for this world. This was about 6 months ago I might add, so maybe he is talking out of his bottom.

Rainboe you are extremely irritating in your new job as self appointed Moderator. Take a step back and read some of your recent efforts. All a bit sad and pathetic really.

MBA747 14th May 2007 15:33

Jack B
 
Is jumpin Jack still there or has he retired? I heard he set up the operation.

Carmoisine 14th May 2007 15:34


whispering campaigns by disaffected employees and former employees against their companies,
If you are referring to me, I am neither.


baseless hints and suggestions
I just stated what I heard. Without giving you a spreadsheet I don't really know what you are looking for? No one will be able to give you hard evidence until afterwards, if it is the case with Globespan. I hope it's not!

jonseagull 14th May 2007 16:10

That'll be a rumour then.....

diesel36 14th May 2007 16:44

Another globespan thread :ugh: :ugh:

How many threads are there going to be, getting very boring now :rolleyes:

Blackball 14th May 2007 18:07

Dogma, The only problem with Flyglobespan is that it is a "Low Cost" airline. It does have a good success story in its short haul market out of Scotland to holiday destinations. It is making a huge commitment into the long haul market, where once it gets the a/c aquistion right and manages to get the crewing sorted out should prove to be a nice little niche market.
IMHO it should do well. I would be rather more concerned about other things such as Brown's so called green Airport taxes making it more expensive to fly long haul from Scotland via LHR/LGW/MAN etc.

Mr Angry from Purley 14th May 2007 19:28

Jumping Jack aka "Chief Skiving Git", never at work on a friday, achieved hero status at Airtours for his clashes with Directors, particularly Commercial :\


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