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Manston Airport 19th Apr 2007 21:59


That near-by road system happens to be the only road in and out of Ramsgate. You can't close it and replacing it with an alternative route would take many years. If that's what's needed to upgrade the ILS you've got a long, long wait.
You could if you moved it a bit.The road passing the airport onto that field:ok:

James:E

undiemole 20th Apr 2007 07:54

A team from Barratts visited the airport area this week, and no its wasn't to check if they could park thier helicopter there....:ooh:

deedave 20th Apr 2007 08:16

Been away for a bit.......

Amazed to see the old rumour about runway extension.

This ones as old as the hills - nice to see it still doing the rounds....

Old rumours never die, they simply get recycled.

PS.....If I were an Infratil institutional investor (manager of a pension fund for example), I think the notion of blowing yet more money on a runway extension would have me reaching for the heart attack pills!!!

Put the pills away lads, I don't think it's happening.

Manston Airport 20th Apr 2007 11:56


A team from Barratts visited the airport area this week, and no its wasn't to check if they could park thier helicopter there....:ooh:
Dont you think they where there working with the Airport on the new homes that are being built nearby?

James

catflaps 20th Apr 2007 17:11

Barrats aren't building the houses that you're talking about. So, if they were at the airport it wasn't for that reason.

weevhearditb4 20th Apr 2007 17:13

weevhearditb4
 
James

No wrong company, its Glesson with another company that is building the Westwood Cross homes nearby (subject to GOSE's approval that is).

On the subject of the runaway extension a former planning officer at TDC indicated that the road going through Manston airport could be closed when the new access road was finally built.

I must reiterate that any planning consideration would be problematic for any developer as Thanets underground water supply is a major factor when any development takes place at Manston or in the imediate vicinity.

Another factor to consider is that Manston has never had an EIA anyway which is going to be very expensive...of which will have to take place in any re-deveoplment at Manston airport or non airport related.

Manston Airport 20th Apr 2007 21:25

Thank you chaps I am sure we will find out soon why they where at MSE and they where not there too build homes on MSE.


Another factor to consider is that Manston has never had an EIA anyway which is going to be very expensive...
Whats an EIA?

Regards
James

weevhearditb4 21st Apr 2007 00:29

weevhearditb4
 
James

An Environmental Impact Assessment of which the Lydd owners did when dealing with their airport expansion plan. They did a very thorough one.

Manston has never had one.

deedave 21st Apr 2007 04:49

I see in my absence that Kent Escapes have had to resort to flogging return seats for 19 quid - presumably an attempt to get a load factor which won't look too embarrassing.

By my calculations they have had around 12,000 return seats on sale for a year or so, and they haven't managed to fill 'em.

These are popular destinations, and this capacity amounts to around 00.65% of the supposed catchment population (discounting the London claims).

This is very, very, very bad.
.

catflaps 21st Apr 2007 07:12

Hi Manston Airport,

In response to the rumour that Barratts had been visiting the airport:

12:56 Friday "Dont you think they where there working with the Airport on the new homes that are being built nearby?"

When it was pointed out that the nearby homes are being built by Carillion:

22:25 Friday "Thank you chaps I am sure we will find out soon why they where at MSE and they where not there too build homes"

The first response suggests that you don't know why they were there. The second response suggests that you do. Care to elaborate? My bet would be that they want to build an estate on the Northern Grass. Beginning of the end methinks.

Throat 21st Apr 2007 07:25

re the flights we are ONLY TALkING a few flights at the begining , in MAY!

Twitcher 21st Apr 2007 07:46

deedave,
I see Ryanair are selling 5 million seats from £10 on their site. Maybe they are doomed too. I thought they were such a well run airline.
Oh, then again maybe it is just a way of getting publicity?
They may be popular destinations but a lot of people aren't keen on booking the packages they are offering, flight only deals will suit a lot more people.

deedave 21st Apr 2007 08:51

High-capacity lo-co selling cheap seats is normal.

Miniscule capacity charter doing the same is desperation.

Anyone who really believes there is pax potential at MSE would have expected all seats to be sold months ago.

If you belive in pax potential, you would have expected it too.

Sorry mate, you can't have it both ways.......

Jes 21st Apr 2007 08:53

I was in the President Hotel in Cape Town a few years ago. I got in the lift, and the other occupant said to me "Which floor do you want?" Without even turning round to look at him I said "Third please, Patrick." I then did look at him, and said "Ooh, sorry." He smiled. It was his voice, that I hadn't heard for years, that was absolutely distinctive. Yes, it was Patrick Allen.

Funny how rumours about Cargolux are dismissed, but alleged sightings of Barratts presage the end of the northern grass.

The local plan does not include housing in that area. The Westwood housing development, with building spread over many years, is causing the council enough headaches.

Sorry boys: Manston is powering ahead as an airport.

snarfel 21st Apr 2007 09:38

What about DAS Air ?
 
DAS Air Cargo apparently doesn’t come back to MSE.
Libyan charter carrier Gulf Pearl Airlines intends to commence a regular weekly freighter service from its home base Tripoli in Libya to Ostend, Belgium. Departing every Monday, the flight will be operated with a DC10-30 freighter, wet-leased from DAS Air Cargo. A trucking link will be established between Heathrow to connect with the service. (April 2, 2007). The first DAS-flight for Pearl will start on April 22.
Also on April 22, a first weekly flight to Lagos will start from Ostend on behalf of Nigerian carrier Allied Air Cargo with DAS Air flight numbers, since Allied Air has always been narrowly associated with DAS.
On the other hand, already since September 2006 Gemini Air Cargo is operating from Ostend twice a week on behalf of DAS Air.

Herne Bay 21st Apr 2007 11:00

Re the cheap flights.
I think this is excellent news
For any one wishing to make use of it, Great for the airport.
All the holiday firms do very cheap offers early and late season.
fills the car park, fills the planes.
I am off to west Ireland next week, to knock, which has a catchment smaller the MSE

Manston Airport 21st Apr 2007 13:09


Hi Manston Airport,

In response to the rumour that Barratts had been visiting the airport:

12:56 Friday "Dont you think they where there working with the Airport on the new homes that are being built nearby?"

When it was pointed out that the nearby homes are being built by Carillion:

22:25 Friday "Thank you chaps I am sure we will find out soon why they where at MSE and they where not there too build homes"

The first response suggests that you don't know why they were there. The second response suggests that you do. Care to elaborate? My bet would be that they want to build an estate on the Northern Grass. Beginning of the end methinks.
Hi Catflaps My 22:25 post was ment too mean I am sure we will find out why they where there for by one off are fellow manston working members. And when I said they where not there too build homes it was sort off saying Manston is not closeing and not have hundreds off Home built on it. But I did think would they build something for overnight stopping Pilots PS sorry if you dont understand that:\ :hmm: This £19 goes to show MSE can have LCC flights too right places:ok: Even if it is a Charter flight,

Regards
James

Jes 21st Apr 2007 15:50

Barratts
 
Was it the Canterbury, Ashford and Folkestone-based car dealers - importing cars from Japan to Manston - or the Thanet-based newsagents - night-flights bringing in the papers - or...?

catflaps 21st Apr 2007 18:07

Hi Manston Airport,

I'm sure you intended to clarify matters:

"Hi Catflaps My 22:25 post was ment too mean I am sure we will find out why they where there for by one off are fellow manston working members."

However, I'm afraid I can't make head or tail of this answer either. No offence intended, but why not read what you have typed before hitting the Submit Reply button?

Hangar_9 21st Apr 2007 19:53

The only time i will ever agree about something with catflaps....:p
I second what you say.
Sorry Manston_airport but recently your posts have become very jumbled and mixed up:\ .

Thanks
H9


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