Can't remember last time there was a strike by Pilots.
Problem is they won't get much sympathy from the travelling public, 1-2% per cent is the norm for the lucky ones there's plenty of readers who can't relate to pay rises in the public service, schools etc let alone better holiday perks.
Having worked for xx airlines and been on the rock n roll 3 times i take what i get and happy that I get my pay cheque

It was reported that they have been offered 1.5% in addition to their automatic annual rise of 1.8% but are demanding 10.7%!

No sympathy here, that's for sure.

No sympathy from the ACMI's who will happily hoover up all the opportunities they can in the UK.

Their arrival is what I would be wanting to strike about

All the strike will do is damage public perception and cost more money in recovering the planned flying programme.

The strike will achieve nothing positive.

Strikes rarely achieve anything positive but if that's what is needed by the employees to achieve what they want so be it as it would only be an advantage to them to make the management take their demands more seriously.

Dream on, that doesn't exist for everyone and its not a pay rise.

Absolutely correct

OH not quite, a reality check for the managers is quite positive. Hubris arises from unchecked achievement.

I surmise you are hinting at one particular (universally despised) manager:}

Look like strike goes ahead as TCX loses a court challenge.
https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-as-High-Court

Airline can't afford BALPA pay demand......Airline loses more money for strike......airline cuts jobs....Airline loses aircraft.....Airline loses more jobs= no airline = no pay increase = NO JOB!

I do not doubt that in past few years we have all made sacrifices working for this Airline, and flightdeck deserve an increase along with the rest of us. But to demand such an increase and then risk the livelihood of the rest of the staff within the airline by striking, I feel you are being far to selfish.

We would all love what you are asking for but come on!

Tcx fair play for standing your ground but let the world know!!! Tcx Facebook page does not show one comment of strike! The reasons you strike may be right or wrong, but the world has no idea, so why bother striking???? Shout out to the world! We support you!

Your first premise is incorrect hence the subsequent logic doesn't add up.

If these stinking individuals don't like their pay and conditions then perhaps they should apply to Ryanair.

I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!

I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.

Oh, do trot along, back to the brexit thread...

The railway is the same 3% more years

It is being reported that the dinosaur union demanded a payrise of 10.7%!

If true, then the dinosaurs can expect little sympathy from customers or shareholders, and not a lot of sympathy from other employees of the company.

The 1970s are over, boys. It's a whole new world now. Get over it.

The dinosaurs need to sit down and thrash out a sensible compromise which gives the crews a payrise somewhere between the CPI and the now discredited and quite obsolete RPI. Losses incurred by Company as a result of today's strike will require to be removed from the pay pot.

It's not really helpful to your argument when you bash an unrelated third party. NHS and other public sector body increments aren't limitless, depending on your role there may only be two or three available to you amounting to a few hundred. There are many that get no increments at all.

Yes, god forbid they try to make a stand against year on year real terms pay cuts, base outsourcing and other issues, set against a management cadre who do quite well for themselves regardless of performance. The absolute cheek!

Perhaps if the RYR pilots could form a union, then they might be more like MO'Ls inspiration Southwest, a company many aspire to join, and are happy to work for, rather than the armchair pundit's go-to company of choice to use as a stick to beat upstart pilots over the head with. "What, you want a uniform issued by the company? You'll want the moon on a stick next! Try working for RYR, see how far that attitude gets you..."

The "crab bucket" mentality in this country is shocking. It's why the rest of Europe outperforms us in many areas and for some reason since the Brexit vote last year, it's only got worse.

Good Luck Tommy C crew. Stand firm.

I read a feature somewhere that pilot was one of the few careers whose earnings had kept pace with inflation, although they were working harder. It may be that TC salaries have fallen behind, don't know.
One thing is certain. The bosses write their own paychecks.

Some of us gobby shareholders are making a stand against some of the worst excesses of that ****, but that's actually a quite separate issue.

Two wrongs don't make right though. Deliberately inconveniencing customers, colleagues and shareholders in a non-monopoly situation seldom ends well, even for the blackmailers who threaten strikes.

In the spirit of the 1970s the NUM thought that their monopoly situation meant that they could dictate terms to the shareholders and customers. That union is somewhat less powerful nowadays, thank gawd.

Tommy Cook is actually a good company and I'd hate to see it dragged under by blackmailers who apparently (if the 10.7% rise demand is true, which it may not be) see no limits to their power or to their ability to extort.

A much better way forward would be for both sides to negotiate a reasonable settlement somewhere between the CPI and RPI levels, preferably fixed for several years so that the business planners can plan the business. Extra perqs, such as freebie upgrades to unsold Y class seats, should be regarded as an add-on extra, not only for flight crew but also for all deadheading aircrew.

I was suggesting that it was possible that TC salaries have fallen behind the industry norm at a time when traffic has been growing fast. It will be very expensive for management if pilots leave for better conditions elsewhere.