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uklad007 4th Oct 2006 11:56

Flyglobespan to launch from DTV
 
Well looks like the rumour is true, On Flyglobespans website it shows for Durham Tees under Summer 07 Alicante, Faro, Palma and Malaga - still not in the booking system yet but on the front page for all to see - Well done Flyglobespan!:D

DTVAirport 4th Oct 2006 13:17

Well done DTVA and Flyglobespan - an airline with plenty of sense!

Upon hearing this I jumped so high with excitement that I ran out of oxygen.

DTVAirport 4th Oct 2006 13:44

How come the DTVA website is a bit on the slow side lately when it comes to releasing press releases on new routes? They're normally first to shout?

But more importantly, is this a base operation or is it just a series of routes?

Regards.

blahblahblah 4th Oct 2006 13:54

DTVAirport

Can't see anything on the flyglobespan home page.... are you sure this is correct of just wishful thinking??:confused:

Pembo330 4th Oct 2006 14:01

Its on the homepage Blah, just page down to the very bottom!

As for DTV website, I guess they'll announce it with GSM formally put things on sale.

My guess it'll be a one aircraft base. With daily to Palma + 1 or 2 runs per day to the other destinations.

Interesting that Tenerife isn't continued into the summer?

uklad007 4th Oct 2006 14:02

Blahblah

Not wishful thinking, it was on their website for over an hour earlier today, although it now isnt showing (if i had a screenshot i would show you) it also showed its Summer routes from ABZ too, they did a similar thing a day or so before they formally announced the TFS route if memory serves correct, maybe they were testing how it will look with all new routes on, i used to do a similar thing when i managed a corporate website. :8

MME4eva 4th Oct 2006 17:33

Well let's hope UKLad007 is on the ball and correct about GSM's proposed routes next summer from DTV..certainly it says on the website that more routes will follow soon so here's hoping it will be ALC, AGP, FAO and PMI (and hopefully TFS if it proves popular this winter) which im pleased to say are some sensible and hopefully well supported routes that will appeal to MMEers!

with regards to further FR expansion, i think GRO is probably the most popular and appealing route lookng at FR's 'base' destinations with the possible addition of Rome Ciampino.

just BRU that worries me...

MAN_Dispatcher 5th Oct 2006 04:24

Any idea who is most likely to get the ground handling contract - Aviance or Servisair?

Aviance recently started offering ramp handling at MME in addition to above-wing, so it is a real shame that bmibaby pulled the plug when they did.

Who do GSM use at their other UK airports?

SWBKCB 5th Oct 2006 06:53

flyGlobespan two aircraft based for Summer '07
 
Now confirmed on DTVA website
:D :D
"Direct Flights on sale now to Four Sunspots
NEXT SPRING THEY WILL FLY FROM DURHAM TEES VALLEY TO
PALMA, FARO, ALICANTE AND MALAGA - WITH PRICES FROM ONLY £39.99 INCLUDING TAXES
The North East is to have low fare, scheduled flights to four of Europe's most popular holiday destinations next year as rapidly-expanding airline flyglobespan launches a major 2007 programme from Durham Tees Valley Airport with the introduction of a 2 based aircraft operation.
The web-based airline announced today that it is to fly to Palma, Faro, Alicante and Malaga from spring of next year with one-way prices starting at only £39.99 including taxes. Additional routes for Summer 2007 will be announced in the near future.
Flyglobespan will initially operate the Alicante, Faro and Palma flights three times a week from Durham Tees Valley with the Malaga operating four times each week.
The initial programme is:
Malaga - commences March 30 - prices from £39.99 inc taxes
Palma - commences March 30 - prices from £39.99 inc taxes
Alicante - commences April 1 - prices from £39.99 inc taxes
Faro - commences April 1 - prices from £44.99 inc taxes
This choice and variety of flights make available the best of Spain's Costas, Portugal's ever-popular Algarve and No.1 holiday island Majorca and also gives travellers flexibility in choosing the duration of their holiday break.
This huge commitment from flyglobespan will totally transform the holiday options for the region. Flyglobespan, one of the UK's fastest-growing airlines, is already known to the area. The airline recently announced a weekly winter sun flight from Durham Tees Valley to Tenerife commencing on 7th November.
This summer programme emphasises their commitment to bring more low-fares flights to the region.
“I am absolutely delighted that we are able to bring the flyglobespan package to Durham Tees Valley in such a widespread manner,” says flyglobespan chairman Tom Dalrymple. “Now North East travellers will be able to enjoy scheduled flights to Europe's most popular resorts - at highly competitive prices. I am very pleased that we have been able to fit in a number of flights per week to all of these destinations. This gives the holidaymaker much more flexibility - and I am sure it will be appreciated. As well as improving the holiday options for the region, we will also be bringing employment into the area,” says Dalrymple. “We prefer to hire our flight deck personnel and cabin crew members locally and will be starting a recruitment drive immediately. When fully established, the two based aircraft operation will create approximately 60 jobs.
As with all flyglobespan programmes, holidaymakers can book flight only or take the complete package with transfers and/or accommodation.
Durham Tees Valley Airport Managing Director Hugh Lang said he was delighted that one of the UK's fastest growing airlines was making such a strong commitment to the airport and the people of the North East.
Said Mr Lang “I am sure that the news of flyglobespan's decision to establish a major operation at Durham Tees Valley will be greeted with delight by both the travelling public and our many partner agencies who recognise the importance of the area to the local economy.
“We had already established a relationship with flyglobespan through their decision to begin flights to Tenerife this winter and what I think is particularly pleasing is that the company is clearly committed to working with us to ensure that we are able to offer a wide choice to the kind of destinations which appeal to the travelling public in the North East.
“That bodes very well for the future and I am sure that people in the region, who clearly value their local airport and the services it provides, will demonstrate that by supporting the flyglobespan programme in large numbers.”

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 07:21

Brilliant! Just got the e-mail through from the airport, does anyone know what the aircraft types will be?

I get the feeling this is just the beginning too...

uklad007 5th Oct 2006 08:08

Am guessing it will be 737's, interesting to note the two based aircraft ops and the note in the mail that came from DTV saying more summer routes to be announced very shortly, it doesnt take much to do the math and realise they will have plenty of capacity to start up new routes looking at the rotations announced. If CDG and also Prague arent announced i will be surprised, i say Prague as its definately one of the bread and butter loco routes that was in effect missing from the baby schedule (even though they did go there once) . I think Faro is a welcome addition also which will prove popular!:ok:

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 09:00

I know it will be 737's but they have -300's, -600's -800's and 2 -700's are on order to be delivered in February and Spring 2007.

Yes, I like what it says about more routes to be added to the programme - I think Cork, Paris CDG and either Geneva or Prague.

shannon55 5th Oct 2006 09:38

Great news for MME. It deserves some good news after the blow of losing WW. If globespan can do half as well at MME as they've done at Glasgow then I feel the future is looking bright for the airport! I think they might start with B737-300s maybe??? I'd love to see them re-open the ORK route.:ok: :ok: :ok:

mmeteesside 5th Oct 2006 10:11

Great news for DTVA! Exactly what we were hoping for! I'm sure flyglobespan will be more successful than baby ever were, and I imagine the extra routes to be announced are going to be longer ones like PRG, BCN and I also presume TFS will be in there somewhere.

As to the routes already announced, well 13 flights per week, 2 based aircraft can do 6 flights a day (3 each) thats 42 flights per week so you can see how much spare capacity is left. Of course having TFS in there might reduce this to around 39 a week (takes up 4 normal length rotations out of 6 in a day for an aircraft I believe).

This is good news, and I'm sure they will be very welcome here at DTVA, and I hope the public support them like they did with bmibaby.

mmeteesside

uklad007 5th Oct 2006 10:20

mmeteesside

As TFS Winter schedule is operated by a TFS based aircraft its likely to assume this may remain so this can come out of your calculations on spare capacity i guess. Lots more to come then.......

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 10:27

Yes, I hope TFS is continued into the summer with the Tenerife based aircraft. Will this be on tonights north east news or last nights?

I wish all these announcements had come in the same month - simply because there would have been an entire page on DTVA in the next Airliner World magazine! :}

It just goes to prove that good always comes out of bad...

JKP505 5th Oct 2006 11:08

Great news for MME, looks like GSM will be sensible with route structure as well. The additional routes will probably fit in with what they have served already, so NCE, PFO and PRG look likely. If GSM are going to do the longer range flights - Canaries and Cyprus, the a/c will most likely be the 736 imo, as the 733 or 737 doesn't have the range, whilst the 738 is probably a tad too large to start with.

I don't think GSM will fly to Cork or Paris, it doesn't fit in their route structure, but stranger things have happened.

Pembo330 5th Oct 2006 11:22

Timetable so far is for one based aircraft:-

Monday - Malaga/Palma
Tuesday - Faro
Wednesday - Malaga/Alicante
Thursday - Faro/Alicante
Friday - Malaga/Palma
Saturday - Palma/Malaga
Sunday - Faro/Alicante

With the first flight leaving MME @ 7am and the second destination leaving between 2 and 2.30pm.

Clearly, there is a hole for the second Tuesday run.

Not yet convinced more routes will follow for next summer (despite the press release) - don't be surprised if its just a one aircraft base for the first year, doubling up in the second.

Prague and Tenerife are obvious choices for any second aircraft, whilst Barcelona may not be as popular a choice for GSM given Ryanair announcing Gerona.

Great news!

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 11:32

When bmibaby first announced the base operation at MME, didn't they originally say they were going to base two aircraft?

Pembo330 5th Oct 2006 12:18

Exactly DTV, they did.

Wouldn't be suprised if they watched how bookings went before committing to another aircraft. The current schedule doesn't really have gaps as such, its pretty much used in full during daylight hours. Any additional routes will probably come from aircraft number 2.

I guess having bitten by BMI's promises, I'm not totally convinced number 2 will be here too quickly.

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 12:28

I suppose watching how bookings goes is a sensible thing to do, but won't GSM need to purchase or lease another 1 or 2 aircraft for MME? If no then won't that mean them downsizing at 1 or 2 other hubs?

If GSM don't take over the ORK and CDG routes then it would be ideal for bmi regional to send us an Embraer to operate these along with perhaps BFS, JER, LGW and perhaps even the German market with SXF or FRA.

Pembo330 5th Oct 2006 12:48

Again, I agree DTV.

I can't see GSM doing Cork, Paris, Jersey, Gatwick etc.. I don't think it fits what they do best.

For me, likely GSM new routes would be Prague, Tenerife, Ibiza, Mahon, Gran Canaria, Paphos, Murcia etc... i.e. holiday routes.

The RJ would be an ideal fit to take over Paris & Cork and any German routes. Brussels also if they want to compete with Eastern.

holgate 5th Oct 2006 12:54

Fantastic news for everyone involved with DTV
Just seen interview on tv with DTV Boss,...another 4 routes to come in the next few days...finalising plans!!!:)
What a crazy few weeks its been
Up the boro
Holgate:ok:

MAN_Dispatcher 5th Oct 2006 12:59

Don't expect bmi to start any regional flights out of MME - they have had years to do this, so I really can't see them starting now.

CDG and BFS/BHD are difficult ones with a larger aircraft - I can imagine the likes of BE or maybe T3 making a success of it, but not a B737 operator. ORK would be a good route for Aer Arran in my opinion.

Maybe BD will bring back the JER flight, either with an A319/20 or ERJ from bmi regional, since it was operated for years by BD before becoming a WW flight. If GSM announce JER, however, they will surely make a success of it, as BD used to send F100s and B737s full to JER on a weekend.

It will be great to see GSM making a success of MME and I wish them all the luck in the world.

Who is the initial handling agent for GSM at MME?? I imagine they must have a contract in place by now if they are starting the TFS route this month. It would be nice to see it go to Aviance, as they invested in their own ramp handling recently, and it would be an ideal replacement for the lost bmibaby business. Any ideas?

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 13:22


Originally Posted by holgate (Post 2890514)
What a crazy few weeks its been

Couldn't agree more - but I don't think I would have had it any other way!

Wonder what the four new routes will be?

holgate 5th Oct 2006 13:49

So guys,..are there anymore airlines on the DTV radar?
Air Southwest to Newquay?,Wizz-air to Poland?,Ryanair from Shannon?.....
or am I being to greedy!:E
Also fellas,whats the score with the baby crews?,transfering to other baby bases?,...or will the majority be applying to join globespan?....
As for the four routes to come.......my guess is Prague/Paris/Nice and......
.........dunno for the last one.......Copenhagen would be nice:ok:
Holgate

Jet_stream 5th Oct 2006 14:20

Just had a look at the GSM MME schedule. At present 1 a/c with 2 rotations per day with the exception of TUE and SAT where there is presently only 1. So already room for a twice weekly destination with 1 a/c.

The only other option for more routes with 1 a/c would be night flights.

MME4eva 5th Oct 2006 17:15

Fantastic news-well done all at DTV and GSM!!

well well well what a difference a few weeks makes in aviation!!although a young company which hitherto has been unknown south of the border i really am optimistic as they choose their routes sensibly (everybody knows my views on WW's NOC and winter JER rotations!!)and they have aircraft in their fleet that will match the demand appropriately.

I agree that it will most likely be a 1 based summer operation and i UKLad007 is correct then TFS would still be operated by the TFS based aircraft allowing 1 or 2 more routes that I would personally like to see being PRG as its been proven to be popular.

As for other suggested routes:

CDG-I agree it does not fit into GSMs current route structure leaving perhaps TOM to offer a ORY rotation but TOM basing highly unlikely now?

ORK-although i see the appeal definately more suited to smaller operation ike bmi regional (unlikely given theyve just dropped LBA-ORK) or a ORK based operator i.e Aer Arann (however just started LBA route)

LGW-i honestly feel this was overload on the MME route netwoek as it only means BD service would be adversely affected and we want to build up routes not destroy them from within!

JER-most likely bmi regional or VLM as is offered at HUY or perhaps Air Southwest as was the case a few years back

NQY-could onyl see this work of offered by Air Southwest NQY based aircraft but it must be a possibilty given no routes from NCL at present and WW seemed to like it

BHD-FlyBE with BHD based aircraft or perhaps T3?

To sum up I feel another based operator is now unlikely and therefore an expansion would come from airlines with bases elsewhere such as flyBE at BHD or Air Southwest at NQY or seasonal charters like VLMor bmi regional

blahblahblah 5th Oct 2006 17:45

Interesting how everyone is speculating on four new routes.

If you read the article Hugh Lang said "up to four new routes", as usual the media have taken this to be four new routes...


Anyway lets hope for some more good news:ok:

MME4eva 5th Oct 2006 18:44

hugh lang actually said 'no more than 4 routes' so we can assume its goin to be 3 or 4 on a 3x weekly basis or 1 or 2 5xweekly

as an add on to people suggesting NCE i'd be very surprised if this happened as i imagine the weekly service by WW wasnt that well supported?

anyone know how BRU and TFS sales are goin?

HH6702 5th Oct 2006 19:52

Excellent news for DTV and flyglobespan. The future is bright now much better than what bmibaby could offer DTV.

hugh lang said on TV that there will be 2 based aircraft from the spring. 4 routes on sale today at least another 4 to follow soon.

I still belive that the deal was done when TFS went on sale. Hugh lang said on TV that when they learnt that baby was pulling out they sat down with other low cost operators and talked about which routes they could offer from DTV. I think that JET2.com lost out with this as they were very quick on the day to slate DTV for the loss and come to fly with us from NCL and LBA.

Great news today with lots more to come. DTV has a great future ahead!!

uklad007 5th Oct 2006 20:27

I agree with MME4EVA in that NCE possibly wouldnt work, but there are lots of other choices there to be chosen.:ok:

DTVAirport 5th Oct 2006 20:59

Earlier on Ceefax it said that Jet2.com were launching from DTVA, it was an obvious mistake though.

goldeneye 5th Oct 2006 21:12

Flyglobespan are starting four routes from MME, Looking at the times the aircraft will be based in MME. They are AGP, PMI from 30 March and ALC & FAO from 1 April.

Alicante is 3x weekly (Sun, Wed, Thu)
Faro is 3x weekly (Sun, Tue, Thu)
Malaga is 4x weekly (Sat, Mon, Wed, Fri)
Palma is 3x weekly (Sar, Mon, Fri)

Along with the current winter tueday flight to TFS

Jet_stream 5th Oct 2006 21:49

goldeneye this was already discussed on here previous page :O

Centre cities 5th Oct 2006 21:53

Nice to see new routes but before everybody gats carried away it still needs bottoms on seats for a reasonable fare.

Funny that Baby are now to out it politley not missed, wonder what comments will be made if it dosnt work for Globespan.

On the subject of money I wonder what deal has been done if any to attract them and Ryanair, that may have an impact on the old fianances.


Centre cities

mmeteesside 6th Oct 2006 14:01

In the Northern Echo (newspaper) today Hugh Lang says that 'these are different types of aircraft' (comparing to baby) and that one a/c will arrive in March and the 2nd in May. The next 4 routes are to be announced within the next 10 days.

So the first aircraft's schedule is...
Mon 0700/1105 AGP 1150/1355
Mon 1430/1815 PMI 1915/2105
Tue 0700/1005 FAO 1035/1340
Wed 0700/1105 AGP 1150/1355
Wed 1410/1805 ALC 1840/2040
Thu 0700/1005 FAO 1035/1340
Thu 1410/1805 ALC 1840/2040
Fri 0700/1105 AGP 1150/1355
Fri 1430/1815 PMI 1915/2105
Sat 0700/1045 PMI 1145/1335
Sat 1405/1810 AGP 1900/2105
Sun 0700/1005 FAO 1035/1340
Sun 1410/1805 ALC 1840/2040

So still a gap on Tuesday afternoon and those times will tighten up I'm sure, should be able to fit 2x long and 1x short returns into 1 day

mmeteesside

MME4eva 6th Oct 2006 17:07

great news that we hopefully wont have to wait too long to hear the 4 other routes:D

just lookin at GSM website and presuming that they will stick to known destinations to the company I predict 4 of the following:

1. TFS-must be definate:)

2. PRG-again a dead cert:confused:

3. Ibiza

4. Menorca

5. Gran Canaria

6. Lanzarote

7. Cyprus

Go on GSM keep it simple and offer what MMEers want and will use!!

On the Eastern Airways front, I can only assume BRU sales are poor-personally I'd be surprised of the first flight is even full looking at the ridiculous price for a day return..speaking to a well placed source last night and he said the route has only been launched due to EU funding and NOT because of demand from the local business community as some would like us to believe

mme_pilot 6th Oct 2006 18:04

What do you think the chances are of GSM starting a weekly rotation to SFB? The north east badly needs direct scheduled flights to FL.

I remember when Britannia and Airours used to fly the route, maybe it would work for GSM too.

SWBKCB 10th Oct 2006 21:24

Plans for Southside development delayed
 
Interesting piece in the Northern Echo:

http://www.thisisthenortheast.co.uk/..._yet_again.php


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