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pamann 1st Jun 2016 05:19

To be fair LTNMan you need to chill because I for one wasn't having a dig at you. In general I think your posts have matured in your older days and are generally balanced compared to your earlier ones which showed a huge lean towards that airport on a hill. However, as for reading the LTN thread, if I'm honest weekly updates of amateur photos of half built car parks, hangers and general building mess don't really do it for me, so I'll use my spare time wisely and pass on that one thank you. I'm sure the usual Lutonian fan club enjoy it as you seem to have them praying at your feet with your posts.

pamann 1st Jun 2016 05:37

And one other thing, why are you so obsessed with travel times to London by train? Do you think everyone lives in London and everyone wants to travel by train? You believe this to be the number 1 reason for an airport's popularity? If so why is Luton not as popular in reality as your fan boys thread seems to be? To be honest Stansted is easier than Luton from where I live and I happen to have a London post code. Luton is a total ball ache of an airport to get to and hardly fills me with joy so I tend to avoid it like the plague where I can (my personal view of course). So you are basing all these travel times and distances on a belief that every London passenger, in fact every London airport passenger originates or resides in Charring Cross? Your system is flawed. Ever considered that some folk arrive at an airport by coach or by car? Stansted has the biggest use of public transport of any UK airport when arriving or departing by coach. It also has one of, if not the biggest open air car park in the whole of Europe. So based on those two points do we 'Stansted' win two points in your stupid game of 'My airport is better than yours'?
Please? Haha

Pain in the R's 1st Jun 2016 05:52

So everyone sees the battle between STN and LTN, which STN has clearly won and will continue to do so as it has the capacity to allow Ryanair to grow but it has never come close to taking on Gatwick.

With regards to Gatwick and Stansted, Stansted is the equivalent of Luton when comparing Gatwick to Stansted. So far, for all the money MAG have put into the place nothing has changed and still it hasn't picked up a single long haul passenger scheduled service.

I can't help but think that STN should be doing better as most of its growth is once again coming from the Irish Harp and as history has shown they can just as easily remove it if they don't get their own way.

pamann 1st Jun 2016 06:09

Here we go again

Yawn :hmm:

AirportPlanner1 1st Jun 2016 06:44


veiled poke at LTNman again I assume
Absolutely not, you have come to your own conclusion about that.


One of the reasons for all of the LTN posts is that there is so much going on
True, but 8 threads worth? In that time LHR got themselves a brand new terminal plus total renovation of another, not to mention the never-ending saga of the additional runway. LGW has had much work, plus the push for a new runway. STN had the rejected runway, a new owner and a lot of work. LCY have had a new owner and proposals for development. SEN pax-wise effectively got themselves a brand new airport. LTNman, I find your development updates interesting but I'm afraid that thread also has a lot of hot air.

LTNman 1st Jun 2016 08:45


Stansted has the biggest use of public transport of any UK airport when arriving or departing by coach.
That sounds like total rubbish. Please back up that statement with some facts please.

Public transport is key to an airport being successful and should be promoted by all parties.

Luton is a total ball ache of an airport to get to and hardly fills me with joy so I tend to avoid it like the plague
So would I if I didn't live so close to it

FRatSTN 1st Jun 2016 12:11

I can second that... STN does have the highest proportion of passengers using public transport of any UK airport. I think it's about 40%. I can't be bothered at the moment to find a link to be brutally honest, but should be quite easy to find somewhere.

daz211 1st Jun 2016 13:01

So on to some real news ...

The Ryanair route from Stansted to Oslo Rygge will transfer to Oslo Gardermoen from
29 Oct 2016 due to new tax laws.

LTNman 1st Jun 2016 15:21


I can second that... STN does have the highest proportion of passengers using public transport of any UK airport. I think it's about 40%. I can't be bothered at the moment to find a link to be brutally honest, but should be quite easy to find somewhere.
Actually you are way out with an under estimate but you are right that Stansted does indeed lead the way.

London airports have the highest proportion of passengers travelling by public transport with Stansted the highest (50 per cent) followed by London City (46 per cent) and Luton with the lowest (29 per cent).
Public or private transport, how do you get to the airport? Latest CAA passenger survey highlights stark regional variations | UK Civil Aviation Authority

Scottish Flyer 1st Jun 2016 16:45

Yesterday the Independent on-line reported the launch of a new airline which plans to fly between Stansted and Amritsar and Ahmedabad in India using an Airbus A330-300. Called flyPOP - "People over Profit" it is being part funded through crowdfunding and aims to give 51% of all profits to charity. It was officially launched on Sunday at the Indian High Commission in London and has quite an impressive website. It proposes operating as low-cost all economy.

davidjohnson6 1st Jun 2016 17:03

The idea of POP is appealing initially but I'm not sure it's a good idea. Airlines like any other company need to make a decent profit for shareholders, and to be able to comfortably pay off any money they borrow in the form of debt, AND reinvest in their product and people. If not, the outcome is often (eventually) customers finding their airline has financial difficulties and the original flight timetable not being honouref

daz211 1st Jun 2016 18:05

Very nice website it looks very good not a school boy project by a long shot
Hope it works out for them.

Itchin McCrevis 1st Jun 2016 18:49

Well you've got to say they seem to have thought it out and put a lot of work in before rushing out for PR - which is always a good sign and it does not seem to be run by an ex-pilot which is another :E

Whether a "crowd funded charity shop" model will work in the airline industry remains to be seen, I predict a bumpy financial ride, but then they said Branson was crazy back when he started, and in the words of GBS "all progress depends on the irrational man".

This bit made me smile:
"First 7000 Gold Pass investors to have their name on aircraft belly of POPís fleet"
That's one complicated decal - unless it's going to be one aircraft each?!

daz211 1st Jun 2016 21:12

Lots of holding for Stansted tonight anyone know why? Poss weather?
Also see that according to flight radar 24 flight FR211 DUB - STN diverted to LHR
And and EZY to SEN.

AerRyan 1st Jun 2016 21:38

Poor visibility. LVP's in place.

Buster the Bear 2nd Jun 2016 11:43

POP Airline targets UK-India flights - Business Traveller

pamann 2nd Jun 2016 20:17

I really like the flyPOP livery. The name may have to grow on me.

In fact their website with the coloured circles reminds me of the old Stansted based 'Go-Fly' ads.

Itchin McCrevis 3rd Jun 2016 23:08

yes they had already been christened "goPOP" in our office :O

daz211 4th Jun 2016 05:45

FlyOne.aero
 
Can't see this mentioned in previous posts and have not heard any chatter.

Fly One has been operating charter flights to Antalya, Heraklion, Rhodes, since April, 2016 and starting with June 2016, it will have regular flights to 9 European and Russian destinations as Verona, Parma, London Stansted, Dublin, Lisbon, Barcelona, Moscow, St. Petersburg, Voronezh..

Seljuk22 4th Jun 2016 10:48

FlyOne is a Moldovan airline operating from Chisinau. 2 weekly flights starting 27th June with planned A320 aircraft.


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