ok, ok, ok,.......forgive me, I accept you're one of the silent minority, and that you're not one of those Shannonites who cruise the airways bashing all and sundry with the billateral brush. Seriously though, no offence meant!

in response to the post on flybe + ext - the answer is they are one and the same - if you remove BE from EXT all you will be left with is a daily FCA flight uring the winter, and about 15 charter movements during the summer (not forgetting the isles of silly bus). The short sightedness of EXT management is almost unbelieable - when it was a struggling little airport 4-5 years ago,and this new fancy rebranded airline called flybe said we will launch loads of routes, but we dont want to pay you any handling fees EXT thought 'yes brilliant'. However, BE have expressly told EXT mngmnt they will reduce services if any other LCC starts services there. Thus trapping the airport, even though I have heard EZY and RYR are queing up to launch services at EXT. Roll on the sale, get some decent management in there that know that a diverse business base is a stable base, if flybe folded tommorow the airport would cease to operate. Why aren't KLM citihopper doing the AMS, where are air berlin, eastern, rockhopper, not to mention RYR and EZY.

I get the feeling that Flybe have had more than half an eye on their proposed flotation next year when planning their 2007 summer schedule and are trying to build up the profit figures rather than continuing their previous long term expansion plans.

For example, the BRS routes appear to have been terminated and their long expressed wish to have a London area hub seems to have put on the back burner through their decision not to open an SEN hub next Spring - something that was a nearly done deal just a couple of months ago.

Presumably their lack of expansion plans has little to do with anything other than a huge lack of crews, a huge lack of suitable people applying to fill the vacated seats, a aircraft grounded as a result. Can open a SEN base if you want, but not much use unless you have pilots to fly the aircraft you put there!

27 resignations in the past 2 months, and its not even prime resignation season yet!

So why the hell do these airports let airlines hold them to ransom like that?? Would Flybe really pull out of an airport it was doing well in, why don't the airport authorities call their bluff?

Expansion
 

With the amount of money Flybe has put into Exeter Airport and the workforce there no way would they pull out of Exeter all together.

The two very large hangars at the eastern end of the of Exeter must of cost a bit.

Exeter has always been a difficult area to attrack flight unless the figures are not peforming then any company will start pulling flights.

The labour force down in the West Country has been good to Exeter Airport as it is a nice area to be in if you look to the west from Exeter there must still be a good number of passenger to come to Exeter to travel to the bucket and spade type areas Flybe are doing.

One has to look at catchment area and costs on where passengers are giong to fly from even parking your car for a week at some aiports you wouldn't do
but places like Exeter and may be Plymouth to a point you still have a family out look to working in these two airports where other you might not know everyone who works at your airport due to it being overgrown.

Exeter has had connections with place like the Channel Islands and Dublin for decades and i would like to place bet they will still be there in a few more.:ok:

Seen in the Express & Echo.......

Leading trade journal Travel Weekly has reported that booming Exeter-based, low-cost carrier flybe intends to charge passengers to check in at airports - probably £1.50 to £2.50 per head - once the proportion checking in online reaches 40-50 per cent within the next 18 months.It seems flybe chief Mike Rutter also considered the idea of fixing a lock on the toilet doors of flybe's new Embraer aircraft and charging £1 admission to any passenger unable to wait until the aircraft lands.

Whoever said the EXT management is short sighted is soooo blooming right, pat that man on the back :ok: Although I really can't see EZY queing up to launch routes when their 2nd biggest hub outside London is 70 miles up the road, hmmm I cant see it myself, however I can see why FR would be intrested, would of been great to pee on EZY's parade with a good base in EXT, unfortunatly EXT have been stupid and sold their soles to FLYBE, the FR brand is much better known and would of been a brilliant capture for EXT especially after the fall out they had with CWL which last year was on the FR website as an expantion area, however it seems that FR don't want anything to do with EXT or CWL and are seemingly flirting with BRS management, in the last year they've added extra DUB flights, added SNN and last week added GRO, both management teams in CWL/EXT have been so stupid and effectively given important contracts to the biggest airport in the region, FLYBE pulling out of BRS is no great loss to the travelling public of BRS believe me, especially if FR continue to dip their toes in to EZY's water, the only route thats dissapointing to see go will be BOD as Merchant Venturer added earlier, however with EZY flying to TLS and La Rochelle the BRS public still have options to get to that area.

Devon guy,

it made me laugh.....:)
Pure rumour, but thats PPRUNE!!
Is it true (pls tell me its not).

FB

He did say it. It was at the Low fares Airlines Congress in London on September 12. I heard him with my own ears!

It is like paying the old penny in the toilet door to get in the loo.

Could it be just a recognition of the new aircraft comming on line??

Who would now a days take that as being a possible money spinner to bring in a penny or two extra.

This is the twenty first century it must be at least a five penny bit or more by now to go to the loo>:ok:

Quote "He did say it. It was at the Low fares Airlines Congress in London on September 12. I heard him with my own ears!"

Are some people so daft they don't recognise a joke?!! It appears so. Of all the media and industry people there one chose to print it as a hot news story. And some still can't see it was tongue in cheek!! :rolleyes:

What about the 2 cancellations at BHD this morning, Man and Bhx. And when I was flying Bhd to Bhx on Tuesday afternoon, the flight to Gla was delayed just short of 4 hours. It looked like that it was being combined with the later flight, though not 100% sure on this.

True Blue

It would be interesting to see if FJE1 can confirm that FJE ops / head office are moving to LTN to consolidate with Silverjets ops etc there.

FJE1 seems to have gone quiet - I want to know what the future holds for a company I have recently joined with so much promise at the outset

Toilets
 

Errr, just wondering what would happen if you had forgotten your change that morning? Would you just have to cross your legs? Would they seek your credit card (with additional £3 handlign charge) before they let you in? Or, would they be brave and just hope that...well ok, don't think I want to go there!!!

The impression I get is that flyjet will stay, as a charter brand. We have the potential to be one of the UK's only independant charter airlines, which if organisation and reputation are improved it could work extremely well - to our advantage!

Flybe BHX
 

I have heard from a friend at BHX that they plan a big expansion next Summer any ideas about routes/frequencies guys? Any idea when BHX will be bookable for next summer?
Daza

Ahhhhh if my old mucker still ALLMCC read these fora and it was a BFS based airline he would no doubt opine it was "the beginining of the end":} :} :}

Daza

Hey there, think i heard they were looking at more routes in France and another one in Germany.

Also heard they were looking at Norway, Olso, not sure where they would go from or if this is true. But it would be very nice if they did