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hapzim 20th Jul 2005 09:15

Monarch
 
Malaga to Aberdeen, Blackpool and Newquay.

http://www.flymonarch.com/cnt/schedu...ferupdates.asp

for the times and days.
:D

aeulad 20th Jul 2005 11:08

Call me bitter, because I am, but why, why, WHY have the likes of BLK and NQY been chosen over Humberside which handles nearly twice as many passengers as they do???? I Don't get it.

I think I am about to give up on Humberside, will we ever get ANYTHING?

Regards

Mike:{

southender 20th Jul 2005 11:44

Aeulad
 
Never mind, for real frustration support Southend!

Cheers

Southender

Dash-7 lover 20th Jul 2005 14:05

Cornwall needs it, although the 40kt fog will be an interesting experience in a 321, ooh another diversion to EXT!!

IB4138 20th Jul 2005 14:06

Not happy.

Means mother-out-law can visit too easily with Blackpool-Malaga flights!:( :mad: :sad:

LTNman 20th Jul 2005 15:09

Strange how Monarch has chosen three costal UK airports where the catchment area is reduced by 50% due to the sea.

BPL321 20th Jul 2005 15:17

Wouldnt say it is that strange although I am suprised it was Monarch Scheduled. I can only talk about BLK I'm not sure about the other 2 but BLK have been very successful in pulling in the pax for their 3 FR destinations. BLK has a good catchment area which includes the City of Preston(15miles away), Blackburn, Southport and a good few towns South of Preston on the way to MAN not to mention the area which covers the Lake District and all the Fylde coast. I would also bare in mind the flights are a 2 way street, Spanish who want to visit the NW will also use it. Just my opinion anyway.

Nakata77 20th Jul 2005 15:18

oh please! I hate it when people say the catchment is reduced because of the sea! The catchment is the catchment. These airports happen to be the ones that arn't over-capacity compared to the central airports.

Richard Taylor 20th Jul 2005 15:45

And don't forget we have the inhospitable mountains to our west,so our catchment area is even more reduced.

:hmm:

BTW Monarch claim they can attract 15,000 Spaniards to ABZ.

15 might be more accurate,unless the good people of Malaga prefer our climate to theirs !

:uhoh:

LTNman 20th Jul 2005 16:21


BTW Monarch claim they can attract 15,000 Spaniards to ABZ.
Poor buggers, I bet they don’t stay long.

Mr @ Spotty M 20th Jul 2005 17:22

May be the Spaniards want to have a holiday by the Seaside.
May be they think that there might be less "P*** Heads on our beaches than on the Spanish ones???
Next it is going to be the French from Paris, going to look at the Blackpool tower!!

IB4138 20th Jul 2005 20:24

Got a feeling the BLK-AGP service will take some passengers who have been travelling EZY from Liverpool.

Lets wait and see if the other two routes, when announced, are in competition with EZY Liverpool routes.

Also with an AGP based aircraft, this will be the first scheduled reasonably timed flight of the day to the UK from AGP.

This means that I can breakfast at home on the Costa del Sol and have lunch with the mother - in - law in Cleveleys!:{

pinhammond 20th Jul 2005 21:28

Several comments about recent postings. It is not a Malaga based aircraft. It is actually LTN based operating a complex pattern. The timing ex malaga might be a problem. It only gets light in Winter at well after eight and much of the demand is well spread out from the immediate Malaga area. There is no public transport for an 0600 check-in.

Nevertheless there is no reason at all why they should not attract all the Spanish passengers they have indicated. Please remember that if you live in a hot climate it can be very attractive to visit a cool climate. I know the Costa del Sol well and know many Spanish people there who just love the rain and cool of Britain. Please remember that the HIghlands of Scotland are very attractive places for visitors.

Please also remember that Blackpool remains the most visited single resort in Europe. The number of visitor nights there overwhelms any other single resort in Europe. It is also a much better gateway for the Lake District than any other airport. I once used Blackpool airport and I was stunned by just how close it was to the centre of the resort. There is probably no other airport in Britain which is so convenient.

Good luck to Monarch. I use their scheduled services regularly and they have an excellent reputation in Spain.

I look forward to seeing them expand at all three airports that they have announced today.

pzu 20th Jul 2005 22:22

Spaniards to UK

AS we presently ship TONS of Sea Creatures (I hesitate to class all of them as food!!! :yuk: ) to Spain, perhaps they may come for the 'fresh caught' taste!!!

Also in the case of ABZ, they could be after the Whisky Trail

PZU - Out of Africa

IB4138 20th Jul 2005 22:36

You are incorrectpinhammond

Monarch state and their winter timetable indicates that the A320 is Malaga based. There is no "W" pattern, complex or otherwise.

Mr @ Spotty M 21st Jul 2005 05:03

Well said IB4138 it would mean an outbound from Luton, before 4am to be a "W" pattern.

pinhammond 21st Jul 2005 05:38

IB 4138

Not so. Any inspection of their schedule shows that an A320 leaves LTN on Suns, Tues, Thurs at 2215 for AGP. Another aircraft returns from AGP to LTN, leaving AGP on Sun, Tues, Thurs leaving AGP at 2145 having arrived in AGP from Newquay an hour earlier. The aircraft operates from AGP to Blackpool every day at 0800 followed by an ABZ on four days and Newquay on three days. After the Newquay flight it always returns to LTN. It is impossible to operate all the new flights announced yesterday otherwise. So the aircraft rotates from LTN three times a week.

It is not so easy to determine the crew slip pattern. I presume that this will be driven by cost so AGP is probably where the crew will be for this winter.

It looks like a pretty safe assumption that next summer there will be more flights from Blackpool to ALC?, PMI? FAO? so there might be a Blackpool based aircraft then. This would fit in well with MAN based crews. ABZ could take a based aircrfat for the summer, operating to AGP, PMI, ALC and possibly TFS, FAO. Newquay would then be operated on a LTN based aircaraft operating a W pattern.

All guesses but certainly achievable.

But it woulsd seem that Monarch will need at least 3 more aircraft by next summer or else they will have to put the A300 on either LGW or MAN based schedules. Has anyone got any rumours/info on this?

hapzim 21st Jul 2005 07:10

Already using the A330 on some of the MAN/AGP zb's.:cool:

LSSUK 21st Jul 2005 08:55

pinhammond: the ltn rotations will be on a different a/c altogether, the rest will be on an agp-based a320.

pinhammond 21st Jul 2005 09:12

LSSUK
Not so. The aircraft leaves LTN at 2215, overnights at AGP and then operates to Blackpool at 0800. As I have already said after every arrival at AGP from Newquay the aircraft operates a scheduled flight to LTN. If you doubt me ask Monarch.


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