They are being leased from CIT.

Due in 2008/2009.

It`s a shame really would have preferred a T7 order with a 787 order for the future, but who knows what will happen

GW76

thanks, tried looking for it but must have missed it!

Do you know when they are being delivered?

BPM

Hi BPM

1st 2 due for delivery in Nov/Dec 2008 with the remainder in 2009. They will be new build a/c so hopefully will all be the same, unlike the hotch-potch of 767s (configs, engines, etc)

Cheers

A330's FOR EXCEL ?
 

Just heard that Excel Airways are getting A330 's and that they are leasing an A330 aswell for operation out of CDG for the summer.on Carribean routes .
Any truth in this rumour anyone ?

XL Airways UK have 2 firm orders, they are A330-200 due in Nov 2008, options for a few more.
not sure about the one for CDG operations, its possible, do they still have something to do with Star airlines, they were owned by the Avion group too so i belive.

Star Airlines are now XL Airways France, and I believe Star XL Germany are now XL Airways Germany. This gives them a number of options for placing the A330's.

XL Airways
 

Now XL have rebranded and taken on different airlines in other countrys (Germany, Ireland, France and Australia) how are they performing?
XL have taken on quite a few a/c in recent month's which takes the fleet of 738's up to 15, with 2 more due and 739's due next year.
Does anyone know where these 738's will be based and any other plans for the UK?
Also whatever happened to the new 747's?

Don't know about the aircraft, but they won't need them if their online and telephone bookings system continue to work as they do at present, including their sister company Freedom Flights. They are working as new business refusal departments.

If you don't want your journey to start in the UK, the online booking system of XL won't allow you to do that. If you telephone XL you are told to ring Freedom Flights ("our sister company") who handle all bookings for flights where the journey does not originate in the UK.

The people at Freedom insist that they can only book such flights where the return ex UK is in multiples of 7 days from your day of departure, as they have to match the inbound and outbound pax. Clearly a load of tosh, when you are not so restricted on shortage or length of stay, when your journey originates from the UK, which can be booked online with XL.

XL Airways - 2
 

Hi all,

I haven't read the previous thread in too much detail, but given the fact it was first created a year ago (!) I think the time is right for a new one.

The way I see it is, and I might be wrong here, what was a very troubled carrier just two summers ago, being the worst for delays as I remember it, is now a completely transformed carrier, with a much brighter future.

By the way, I understand they have an Australian division, I know of the French, German, Irish, and obviously the UK divisions, but I've never heard of XL Airways Australia?

Regards.

I believe XL have a minority stake in Skywest Airlines in Australia

I'm not sure of XL's expansion policy, but this summer seems to be a heavily contracted schedule compared to that of the last two summers, is this because XL are now more focused or what? To use EMA as an example (though I'm aware XL has withdrawn or scaled back from other airports) over the last two years the airline hasn't based it's own aircraft here, instead using XL uniformed crews but MD-83s of Viking Airlines under the brands Air Scandic in S05 and UKJet in S06. This summer they're using Air Malta and bmi for XL flights, as well as one or two XL W-pattern flights. The airline seems to be on a big marketing push with the XL.com brand, but they seem to almost always use other airlines to operate their flights, and have recently closed CWL & HUY.

Man - Skg
 

Hi
Sorry if I asked this question about a FCA flight a few days ago but we've found an XLA flight cheaper.
Could anybody tell me what aircraft type XLA use on the MAN - SKG route in the summer?
Michael

"The way I see it is, and I might be wrong here, what was a very troubled carrier just two summers ago, being the worst for delays as I remember it, is now a completely transformed carrier, with a much brighter future."

Not sure what happened to a couple of posts I made on this topic, but I hope this is still relevant:

Two weeks ago, I flew LGW-ANU (via SKB) on G-VKNG, which left LGW "about an hour late", due to a technical issue.

Didn't think much of it - XL still have a reputation for delays round here, but the price was too tempting to ignore. The next day, I took a flight out of ANU at 6AM - the aircraft, which should have left the previous evening at 20:05, was still on the apron.

I've heard that it eventually got back to LGW about 24 hours late, having been routed up the US East Coast, and via a tech stop in KEF. This sounds like it wasn't allowed to fly ETOPS, but I presume it is still SOP to carry passengers when there is a tech issue, even though this will have been known about before take-off?

Just hoping for an event free flight tomorrow, but would have serious concerns if I was heading out in the other direction, and had a cricket match to get to!

XL A320 Order !!
 

Just been on wikedpedia web site and it is showing that XL have ordered 20 A320's to be delivered from Airbus, first due January 2009. This would make sense with the A330's which have been ordered. Can anyone give anymore info.
Cheers
3REDS

Travel City/XL. Airways
 

Hello, does anyone know what type of aircraft TCD or XL airways are using for the Manchester-Sanford route that leaves every Thurday afternoon?

I have conflicting stories that it is a &$& Jumbo or a 767. Anyone know?

I used to work for XL last year and they used a 747, I think they still do.

last thursday it was 747 on man-sfb

747-300 is based at MAN year round currently TF-AME
767-300 winter LGW
747-300 summer LGW

is it only the one jumbo?

Do you have any idea how old that plane is?

TF-AME

Delivered to SQ on 30/10/1984 as N121KG
Went to Corsair as F-GSEA on 21/8/1997
Then registered to Air Atlanta Icelandic as TF-AME on 15/12 /2004
Finally leased from AAI to Travel city direct still TF-AME on 17/03/2005

First flight date was 17/10/1984 not bad to say its nearly 23 years old, hasnt had a wealth of operators like most that age have. :ok:

WOW-How on earth do you know all that???

Is it a nice 'healthy' plane (Nervous flyer you see!!)

Thanks very much.

oh, and one last thing-Who are SQ-What operator are they?

SQ= Singapore Airlines
Its amazing what a google search will come up with.....:rolleyes:

Funny thing is, this is a website about all things aeroplanes-So I just asked what SQ stood for-Not everyone is a airline geek.

But thank you for answering my question.

healthy plane???
yes, flew on it last march, up in the bubble and its fine dont worry, good service in the bubble as well

XL are starting scheduled flights next summer, according to their flight timetable

XL have been doing scheduled services this summer too, viz: LTN-LCA and others

The LTN-LCA has been operated since the demise of AJet (Helios)

As for the aircraft orders, XL France have 3 A320's & the 2 A330 ordered, XL Germany have 2 A320's on order. As they are now all part of the same group I'm sure they will all be swapped around as necessary.

http://www.airbus.com/store/mm_repos..._June_2007.xls

2 of the 767-300's are apparently going back to the Leasing Company soon, and the contract on the 743's comes to an end in 2008, hence the orders for the A330's.

Another scheduled route, that starts this winter - prepared to be surprised - LGW-NOC, daily except Saturday. Not yet for sale but its in their flight timetable. This is a bit of change in direction for XL

Anyone any idea when the lgw /noc flights will be released for sale?

cheers.

Flight timetable now also showing MAN-LCA, and interestingly LTN -Paphos/Sharm El Sheik as scheduled services - the Luton routes arent currently served on a charter basis so are brand new

Down Sizing
 

Hey Guys!!! :)

I have heard that XL are due to down size at LGW and MAN so its unlikly that there going to be crewing for summer "08" at these two bases.

Has anyone else heard this and why is this happening at these two big bases? :ugh:

Hope use can give some light on it, as i was really looking forward to applying to LGW for summer "08" :{

No STN fights are on sale for next summer - so is STN base shutting down?

But it does look like a LTN base will be opening?

I was noticing that in the Travelcitydirect website they are offering only main cabin or premier seating for S08 are XL they doing away with the 747-300's earlier than planned this would also seem to fit in with downsizing, I take it will be with XL 767's.

Can anyone tell me the if the layout in the XL 767's are 2-4-2, 2-3-2 and what the seat pitch/comfort is like.

I see that they have now on order 4 x A330 for delivery, 1 on each Nov & Dec 08 also Mar & Apr 09.

Well that would work out, as from what i have heard is that the lease for the 743 is due to end mid November this year and i have not heard of any plans to extend this lease again.

As for the 767's thier longhaul economy cabin is 2-4-2 with 32" legroom. The XL one cabin is 2-2-2 with upto 45" legroom. As for the premium economy section i am not sure if they still offer this service but when they did it aws 2-3-2 with upto 35" legroom.

airhumberside - LGWNOC as a scheduled route, will be interesting to see how XL do as EZ tried it then pulled off. Would imagine RYR will also give them a run fo there money with their own routes into STN/LTN.

I apologise in advance if this is the wrong forum. What are xl operating on MAN-SSH and MAN-HRG this winter?

Is it B738/B752/B762 ?

(If wrong forum please move)

At the moment I doubt they will be doing very well as its stil not yet on sale, just in the timetable. Same with LTN-PFO/SSH. Anyone know whats going on?

Just shows how FCA and TOM treat their passengers. This is near enough the same configuration as FCA/TOM economy cabin. TCX/MYT/XL/MON/VS need to take note of the great service that FCA and TOM offer on their long haul services!

"MUFC_FAN" you might find TOM & FCA have the extra leg room, but l bet the main cabin is still 2-4-2.